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New Vatican document asserts Catholics should not evangelize Jews

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Interesting y:-? : http://www.reuters.com/article/us-pope- ... BK20151210

Don't Jews need Jesus???!!!

Documents on Muslims, etc., to follow?
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The most interesting thing about the article you linked to was about the Roman Catholic Church recognizing that God has not revoked His Covenant to Israel. If this is true and not some editorializing on the part of the writer of the news article, it represents a major shift. Indeed, it doesn't make much sense. Something smells...
Philip wrote:Don't Jews need Jesus???!!!
The RCC has never been an evangelizing force towards Jews. Rather, the RCC has been openly hostile towards Jews thoughout its history. C'mon, gimme a break...

Jewish evangelism is done mostly by Messianic Jewish ministries. Support them financially if you can. Many Protestant denominations are tainted with the same anti-semitism and anti-zionism as the RCC. Historically, «Christian evangelism» to the Jews generally ended in pogroms...
Philip wrote:Documents on Muslims, etc., to follow?
In its Catholicism of the Catholic Church, the RCC recognizes Islam as being an Abrahamic religion, serving the same God as Judaism and Christianity. In the light of this, do you really think the RCC has an accurate idea about who God really is?

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Is it so hard to keep Gods message. It's clear just believe and it's simple. We are taught to love and be humble.
No one is above nor beyond the clear message of Christ.
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What it says and what it means...
"The Church is therefore obliged to view evangelization (spreading Christianity) to Jews, who believe in the one God, in a different manner from that to people of other religions and world views," it said.
Read more at Reutershttp://www.reuters.com/article/us-pope-jews-id ... Zf1bkvV.99
"In a DIFFERENT Manner..."
"In concrete terms this means that the Catholic Church neither conducts nor supports any specific institutional mission work directed towards Jews," said the document, adding that there was a "principled rejection of an institutional Jewish mission".
Read more at Reutershttp://www.reuters.com/article/us-pope-jews-id ... Zf1bkvV.99
"and SPECIFIC institutional mission..."
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PaulSacramento wrote:"In a DIFFERENT Manner..."
PaulSacramento wrote:"and SPECIFIC institutional mission..."
The links you provided don't work. In any event, the Vatican doesn't have any credibility when it comes to evangelizing Jews.

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Furstentum Liechtenstein wrote:
PaulSacramento wrote:"In a DIFFERENT Manner..."
PaulSacramento wrote:"and SPECIFIC institutional mission..."
The links you provided don't work. In any event, the Vatican doesn't have any credibility when it comes to evangelizing Jews.

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The headline of the articles says, "Vatican says Catholics should not try to convert Jews, should fight anti-semitism." Failure to share the gospel with Jews is the worst kind of anti-semitism there is.

The apostle Paul was called specifically to carry the gospel to the Gentiles and yet everywhere he went he always went first to the Jews. Anyone who wants to know what our attitude toward the Jews should be should read chapters 9 to 11 of Romans.
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theophilus wrote:The headline of the articles says, "Vatican says Catholics should not try to convert Jews, should fight anti-semitism." Failure to share the gospel with Jews is the worst kind of anti-semitism there is.
Baloney. The best the Vatican can do is to simply ignore Jews and Israel. The Roman Catholic Church is an historically anti-semitic institution. In modern times, their anti-semitism has been toned down to anti-zionism, which is equally reprehensible and goes against the clear message of the Bible.

However, individual Roman Catholics may evangelize Jews by proxy, by donating time or money to Jewish evangelism. However, the actual face-to-face evangelism is best done by Messianic Jews, period.

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Furstentum Liechtenstein wrote:However, individual Roman Catholics may evangelize Jews by proxy, by donating time or money to Jewish evangelism. However, the actual face-to-face evangelism is best done by Messianic Jews, period.
Messianic Jews are the ones best qualified for face-to-face evangelism but not every Jew has the opportunity to talk of one. Any Christian who has the opportunity to evangelize a Jew must take advantage of it.
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Furstentum Liechtenstein wrote:
theophilus wrote:The headline of the articles says, "Vatican says Catholics should not try to convert Jews, should fight anti-semitism." Failure to share the gospel with Jews is the worst kind of anti-semitism there is.
Baloney. The best the Vatican can do is to simply ignore Jews and Israel. The Roman Catholic Church is an historically anti-semitic institution. In modern times, their anti-semitism has been toned down to anti-zionism, which is equally reprehensible and goes against the clear message of the Bible.

However, individual Roman Catholics may evangelize Jews by proxy, by donating time or money to Jewish evangelism. However, the actual face-to-face evangelism is best done by Messianic Jews, period.

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That red highlighted part is exactly what Pauline scholar and messianic Jew (living in Israel)Joseph Shulam believes. His specific comments on this are at the 56:00 mark. The rest of his lecture is worth watching also.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzEXU5dzTxw
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