Possible, yes. The question is what happens after.CeT-To wrote:Is it possible to completely halt masturbation?
I'm aware of the latter quote. I've thought about it thoroughly, and I think we often misunderstand it. If you imagine certain "scenarios" ( ) in your head, that doesn't mean you would carry out what you think about in real life, if you had an opportunity to do so. I've worked on myself, and I can clearly distinguish what's realistic, and what has to remain inside my mind.Danieltwotwenty wrote:*edit* I would also like to add that I don't think the actual act is sinful but rather who or what you are thinking about during. 2 Peter 2:14 Matt. 5:28
I don't know, I've never smoked.CeT-To wrote:LOL which is generally harder stopping masturbation or smoking?
I agree. You're a sexual being, and you can't run away from that.DRDS wrote:I really want to weigh in on this. This by far is the worst sin problem I struggle with. But at the same time I don't know really if it truly is a sin.
The thing I see with this, it to me is almost impossible to conquer in the kind of world we live in. If I for instance were to get rid of my television, computer and anything in my house with pictures of pretty women I still have to go out in public where I see attractive women. I can't live in a bubble the rest of my life.
So, you'd want women to cover themselves up so that you don't get aroused? Isn't that selfish, and discriminating? We're supposed to be a free society which doesn't order people what to wear, especially not in such a humiliating way. What if a woman faces similar problems like you because she's attracted to men on the street? Should we cover up as well, or should only women do so because they're women?DRDS wrote:one thing I do kinda like is they demand all their women to cover themselves up to not be a such a sexual temptation to men.
I think the first step you need to make if you want to find a wife is to change your view on women.
Most of them don't like being thought of as sexual objects, you know.
So, if someone rapes an "indecently" dressed woman, she would be just as to blame as him, according to you?DRDS wrote:Something I think most women these days need to take into consideration that they have such massive power with their looks and the way they present themselves.
They need to stop abusing that power, because currently they abuse it like the worst of tyrants. They to me are as every bit as guilty as the men who indulge in viewing them.
What do you consider "being attracted to a woman"? Why would you run from that, I don't understand. I think you avoid contact with women because you're in fear of "committing an adultery in your heart", so you don't know enough about them, hence your previous comments which could be even interpreted as sexist. Now add abstinence from relieving your sexual energy, and you get a counter effect. You become "tempted" much more than you should.DRDS wrote:The problem is I tend to see most of the women I'm attracted to either in church or places where most people normally don't go to find attractive women. Which in a way makes things even more difficult for me.
A man's body doesn't distinguish masturbation from sex. You're talking about positive effects of sex on the human body.DRDS wrote:And as far as my doubts on masturbation even being a sin I don't know why God would allow something that actually IMPROVES a person's health to be sinful. Studies have shown that men who do this have less stress, and they improve the overall functions of their prostate and unitary tract system.
I don't see how you can put premarital sex and rape into the same category.DRDS wrote:And not only that I think masturbation may keep many people from committing undeniable sins (or worse sins) like having sex with your girlfriend before marriage, having sex with a prostitute, having sex with a married women, or raping someone.
Why would you stop seeing women because of your financial situation? Maybe it'll get better in a year or two. I sure hope you don't intend to get married as soon as you meet a woman you like. Marriage is a lifelong decision.DRDS wrote:Don't get me wrong, I don't want to really do it anyway, I'd love to have a wife but because of my current job and financial woes and the fact I'm having to take care of my dad's parents I can't commit myself to a woman in hopes of being a good provider for her.
And so thus I'm not even dating or seeing any woman right now. I just really hope this economy gets better so I can.
Secondly, why wouldn't your future wife work to provide for the family, at least until the situation with finances gets better.
Women work these days, you know.
I don't know, I think too much "self restraint" can harm a person. Sex is, partially, a physical need as well, especially for young people whose hormones are raging. So I think it's safe to relieve excessive sexual tension by masturbating if there's no other option at the given moment. Because if tension is left uncontrolled, it can cloud a person's judgement and force him/her exactly into what (s)he wanted to avoid in the first place - getting into a sexual encounter that (s)he wouldn't have opted for if it wasn't for the hormones. By keeping them balanced, you can avoid DRDS's problem of being "attracted" everywhere and in any time.Murray wrote:But I feel there are times when it can actually be useful, perhaps like self restraint in a relationship and such.
I mean, I've read all sorts of "Christian" advice on sexuality (under quotation marks because there was no Biblical support to them), and all I found was "abstinence". When you're a teen, abstain from masturbation. When you get a boyfriend/girlfriend, abstain from longer hugs ( ), kisses ( ), not to mention sex. So when you marry a person not knowing even what it feels like to kiss them, you're supposed to spend your entire life with them. Again, abstain from contraception, from touching your spouse's sexual organs with your hands ( ), and abstain for certain periods because of... well, for no reason really. Does it ever stop?
Note that I'm not trying to attack a straw man, I'm just saying that there are people who live this way (at least they say so ), and tell other people that they'll burn in Hell if they don't start living their way as well. Personally, I think that kind of lifestyle can only lead to mental disorders - paranoia, anxiety and guilt complex to name a few.
So again, there's nothing wrong if you think about women - it's natural. There's nothing wrong if you imagine certain "scenarios" in your head, as long as you know that you wouldn't carry them out in reality. Mind is a powerful thing, but once you learn to control it, you're the one in charge of yourself.
Easier said than done.PaulSacramento wrote:A healthy love life is the best cure for masturbation