UsagiTsukino wrote:Well techically they do teach we have to keep the sabbath yet Paul did not repeat the Sabbath as a law and the simple fact that it's been stated that Sabbath law and Mosaic LAw was for the jews. Gentiles did not follow these laws. Gentiles are Christians. SO SDA are Christians too. I mean there are some churches that are sabbath but they say your going to hell.
Sure, you can find all types in any religion.
The trouble with talking about the different denominations, is that they are all a mix of believers and non believers, and the saying that the broad way leads to destruction and the narrow way to salvation, applies to the church members as well.
People can misrepresent their own church. I have become aware of several churches including the SDA church which have had splits in their congregations for various reasons. The outcome has shut many churches down, which make me wonder if they have been infiltrated by those whose mission has an agenda to destroy essential Christianity within communities.
People differ, but can we go by what the churches have written down as their beliefs, in creeds, etc. And then test those writings against the Bible. I think even here, the churches have seen divisions among the parishioners.
The SDA's teach the Sabbath of the Bible, and not Sunday, which is a Catholic declaration, and of course the most commonly accepted holy day in the world, and by Pagan religions as well, from where it was originally adopted. Friday would come in second by popularity through the Muslim world, and Saturday is third, and upheld by many of Jewish faith.
The basis for this keeping of the Sabbath is part of their recognition that the law of God is immutable/everlasting, as I find consistent with scripture, e.g, Psalms 111:8 KJV.
Some people would like to put forward arguments for the different holy days, and even for none at all.
But in the end, everyone of us has to be sure what the Bible actually says on the different doctrines.
Especially with so many conflicting religions in the world, as well as the tendency for them to all unite into one massive soup, under the spell of a Universal or Cosmic christ idea.
The dismissal of the 7th Day Sabbath, is due to a few doctrines which basically do away with the Old Testament and the ten commandments in the ark of the covenant. Another misconception is the idea that the two covenants represent the old and new testaments, when in fact both covenants existed in type from the beginning, for example with Cain and Abel.
The faith of Abraham applies to those of the new covenant, not based on the promises of the people, but on the promises of God, which unlike the word of man, are backed by creative and saving power.
The covenant God made with Israel at Sinai was based on His saving power - and its success depended on the people accepting that protection, but they forsook the Lord and went after idols,
but the Law of God remained with the words "Thou shalt have no other gods before Me." "I am the Lord your God that has delivered you from bondage."
The living or new covenant was for people who were saved by Him, but they denied this position of honor by their forgetfulness and unbelief, giving birth to the old covenant again, just like Cain did not appreciate the meaning of the sacrificial lamb.
Paul, the disciples, and the early Church right up until 400 AD kept the Sabbath, not Sunday, which became official on the pain of economic sanction, torture and death by the Catholic church. The true Christian church went underground for over a thousand years, and still kept the Sabbath. It was the survival of the true Sabbath through the entire dark ages that allowed the Methodists to pick up on it, and from there it was accepted by people from all denominations, accumulating and growing in the SDA church. Early Seventh Day Adventists were a mix of many denominations and newly converted who learned about the Sabbath.
The very last church in the Bible, keeps the commandments of God, and therefor must honor the Sabbath, which is the fourth Commandment of God. And of course they have the faith of Jesus. Rev 14:12. It is very obvious what the mark of the beast is.
During WW II there was a deliberate genocide of millions of Sabbath keepers. Now we are seeing the slaughter and breakdown of the Friday keepers, through means which appear to be of themselves.