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Re: Christians

Postby RickD » Wed Jan 29, 2014 6:03 pm

This site has some comparisons between the bible, and Christian Science beliefs:
http://www.christianway.org/CS%20and%20the%20Bible/Jesus.htm
1 Corinthians 1:9
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Re: Christians

Postby Furstentum Liechtenstein » Wed Jan 29, 2014 6:44 pm

RickD wrote:I am saying that Christianity and Christian Science are fundamentally at odds.


Yes, they are, and on many levels. Pay attention, Danieltwotwenty! And you may want to brush up on the little epistle of 2 John. Pay special attention to verses 7 through 11.

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Re: Christians

Postby ChristianScientistAnn » Thu Jan 30, 2014 9:47 am

I have looked at all the sites mentioned above that are supposed to explain Christian Science, and find them all to be inaccurate except, of course, www.christianscience.com, which is our church website. 2 John 7 - 11 doesn't apply. We can "agree to disagree" though, I hope. There's enough room in the universe, right?

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Re: Christians

Postby RickD » Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:33 am

ChristianScientistAnn wrote:I have looked at all the sites mentioned above that are supposed to explain Christian Science, and find them all to be inaccurate except, of course, http://www.christianscience.com, which is our church website. 2 John 7 - 11 doesn't apply. We can "agree to disagree" though, I hope. There's enough room in the universe, right?

Of course we can agree to disagree. I think I just wanted to clear some things up for Danieltwotwenty.

ChristianScientistAnn,

Since you think the websites that were posted are inaccurate, perhaps we could hear it from you. Who do you say Jesus Christ is? Do you believe He is God in the flesh?
1 Corinthians 1:9
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Re: Christians

Postby Danieltwotwenty » Thu Jan 30, 2014 2:10 pm

RickD wrote:
ChristianScientistAnn wrote:I have looked at all the sites mentioned above that are supposed to explain Christian Science, and find them all to be inaccurate except, of course, http://www.christianscience.com, which is our church website. 2 John 7 - 11 doesn't apply. We can "agree to disagree" though, I hope. There's enough room in the universe, right?

Of course we can agree to disagree. I think I just wanted to clear some things up for Danieltwotwenty.

ChristianScientistAnn,

Since you think the websites that were posted are inaccurate, perhaps we could hear it from you. Who do you say Jesus Christ is? Do you believe He is God in the flesh?


I am trying to build bridges not walls Rick, I fully realise the differences.

I would rather be nice and talk about the issues than bash them about it.

I actually don't think perfect knowledge is required for salvation, it is more about where your heart is at.

She seems like a nice person, so I think I will treat her with dignity, she follows Christ, loves God and others, that is enough for me. I'm sure when she meets God and he says you got this bit a little wrong he won't hold it against her. We are the religious animals not God and I am sure I have many things wrong.
1Tim1:15-17
Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners of whom I am the worst. But for that very reason I was shown mercy so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might display his immense patience as an example for those who would believe in him and receive eternal life. Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory for ever and ever.Amen.

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Re: Christians

Postby RickD » Fri Jan 31, 2014 6:15 am

Danieltwotwenty wrote:
RickD wrote:
ChristianScientistAnn wrote:I have looked at all the sites mentioned above that are supposed to explain Christian Science, and find them all to be inaccurate except, of course, http://www.christianscience.com, which is our church website. 2 John 7 - 11 doesn't apply. We can "agree to disagree" though, I hope. There's enough room in the universe, right?

Of course we can agree to disagree. I think I just wanted to clear some things up for Danieltwotwenty.

ChristianScientistAnn,

Since you think the websites that were posted are inaccurate, perhaps we could hear it from you. Who do you say Jesus Christ is? Do you believe He is God in the flesh?


I am trying to build bridges not walls Rick, I fully realise the differences.

I would rather be nice and talk about the issues than bash them about it.

I actually don't think perfect knowledge is required for salvation, it is more about where your heart is at.

She seems like a nice person, so I think I will treat her with dignity, she follows Christ, loves God and others, that is enough for me. I'm sure when she meets God and he says you got this bit a little wrong he won't hold it against her. We are the religious animals not God and I am sure I have many things wrong.

If I came across as bashing, I apologize. That wasn't my intent. 1over137 wasn't familiar with Christian Science, and from your post, it seemed you weren't either. By saying you are fundamentally on the same page with a belief system that doesn't acknowledge that Christ is God, is troubling. How can one trust Christ for salvation if the christ one puts his trust in, isn't the Christ that can save?

Initially I wasn't going to say anything regarding Christian Science. But after 1over137 and you posted, it needed clarification.

And ChristianScientistAnn is more than welcome at this board.
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Re: Christians

Postby 1over137 » Fri Jan 31, 2014 7:22 am

:oops:
But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
-- 1 Thessalonians 5:21

For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
-- Philippians 1:6

The LORD is my rock and my fortress and my deliverer, My God, my rock, in whom I take refuge; My shield and the horn of my salvation, my stronghold
-- Psalm 18:2

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Re: Christians

Postby RickD » Fri Jan 31, 2014 8:32 am

Nothing to be :oops: about Hana. If you have never heard of Christian Science, you wouldn't be familiar with what they believe.
1 Corinthians 1:9
9 God is faithful, through whom you were called into fellowship with His Son, Jesus Christ our Lord.

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"Christianity is not a joke, but it has some very poor representatives."


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Re: Christians

Postby ChristianScientistAnn » Fri Jan 31, 2014 12:32 pm

Thank you for the warm welcomes from Byblos, lover137, Danieltwotwenty, FL, RickD. I am truly enjoying myself.
No need to feel embarrassed, lover137. I get that all the time, about the sciences, and I'm completely used to it. People say, "Do you have a lab or something in your church basement?" And there's a genre of literature called Christian Science fiction which is science fiction written by Christians, and has nothing to do with my religion. Confusing. It's not a well known denomination even though it's been around since it was discovered in 1866.
Danieltwotwenty, thanks for the bridge.
RickD, no harm done. I think the tenets pasted above explained my religion's position on Jesus, Christ, God. I respect that you felt the need to sound a warning.
I love the mission of this site - about encouraging skeptics. It is so needed. Was reading an article about atheists this morning and how they are doing community service together and arranging classes for children to learn values. That's very good, but I'm sure we all yearn to let them know what we've known. I take comfort in knowing that if any one of them truly seeks, they will find.

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Re: Christians

Postby 1over137 » Fri Jan 31, 2014 1:16 pm

1over137 and not lover137. But you are not first to mistype me. :wave:

To the Christian Science - well, we have forums on Bible and on theology. Maybe we can discuss little bit things we have different opinion on.
But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
-- 1 Thessalonians 5:21

For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
-- Philippians 1:6

The LORD is my rock and my fortress and my deliverer, My God, my rock, in whom I take refuge; My shield and the horn of my salvation, my stronghold
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Re: Christians

Postby ChristianScientistAnn » Fri Jan 31, 2014 1:21 pm

Oh! I see, 1over137. Thanks for pointing it out.

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Re: Christians

Postby 1over137 » Fri Jan 31, 2014 1:22 pm

ChristianScientistAnn wrote:Oh! I see, 1over137. Thanks for pointing it out.

Do you know what that means? You mentioned you take some physics class. :mrgreen:
But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
-- 1 Thessalonians 5:21

For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
-- Philippians 1:6

The LORD is my rock and my fortress and my deliverer, My God, my rock, in whom I take refuge; My shield and the horn of my salvation, my stronghold
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Re: Christians

Postby ChristianScientistAnn » Fri Jan 31, 2014 2:17 pm

No. Physics class was decades ago. I'm so curious too. What does it mean.

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Re: Christians

Postby 1over137 » Fri Jan 31, 2014 11:05 pm

ChristianScientistAnn wrote:No. Physics class was decades ago. I'm so curious too. What does it mean.

It is approximately this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fine-structure_constant
But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
-- 1 Thessalonians 5:21

For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
-- Philippians 1:6

The LORD is my rock and my fortress and my deliverer, My God, my rock, in whom I take refuge; My shield and the horn of my salvation, my stronghold
-- Psalm 18:2

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Re: Christians

Postby Furstentum Liechtenstein » Sat Feb 01, 2014 7:10 am

1over137 wrote:[1/137] is approximately this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fine-structure_constant


Personally, I would have preferred a more precise definition but for the layman, the wiki explanation is acceptable.

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