Audacity wrote: Kurieuo wrote: Audacity wrote: Kurieuo wrote:
Substitute "spiritual" with "psyche" if you prefer. Unless you don't believe in a psyche. In fact, are "we" really having this conversation? Is there even a conversation being had if a real "you" and a real "I" don't exist...
Why would I want to redefine a word you use so I could agree with your statement? No, your statement has to stand or fall on the words you
Audacity, for someone who doesn't think they really exist and make real choices, you seem awfully passionate and set to disagree at all cost. I won't entertain such foolishness further, since it's evident you aren't interested in reason or discussion. I'd again request you self-examine why you're really here.
Note: in fact after read STs post to you, and in reflection upon some complaints made, I won't have you at this board if you will continue to cause aggitation rather than befriend.
I'm sorry if someone has taken offense at a reasonable comment I've made about their post. However, if I've made an unreasonable comment to anyone here on any topic I would appreciate knowing about it. I've always tried to be honest and constructive in everything I've posted, and without being mean or antagonistic about it. That someone may be agitated by what I say is unfortunate, but it's certainly not my aim. My suspicion is that what I've said might have been simply too challenging to their position or beliefs. But if that's one of the caveats of posting here: Don't challenge anyone too much, then I'm certainly not the only guilty poster here. I couldn't count the number of times I've jumped on by members over a particular point I've made, and jumped on at the same time. However, I recognize this is part of interesting discussions, and wouldn't think of complaining about it.
Audacity, self-inspect why many like Jac (and there are others, but you mentioned him) might react to you in such a way. The root cause, as I see matters, are with the approach and manner you takes towards others in your post. Like you're talking down to others who are Christian here, such of course ends up in unpleasantries back that are also unbecoming.
To be clear as to the complaints, there is a report function on the board where members can reports posts. Your posts have been reported on numerous occasions throughout your time here before your time away, and now you're back. One of the latest reports says your posts are always "smarmy and obtuse" and challenges us mods to do something. Looking over your posts, and reactions to them, this report seems to me justified.
So then, what should we do as mods? Like you say, you haven't been overtly insulting, and yet, there is much agitation being caused in the manner (and I don't believe it's just because you're challenging Christians, but rather your manner). We have had numerous calls to tighten up and stick to the board purpose, which was one reason for the updated guidelines with the new Moderator Policy as the end
Understand, this is a Christian board, so then when a non-Christian comes and starts poking their stick, and/or being condescending and smart i.e., "smarmy", then if Christian members react we do often overlook such, since the root cause for their frustration wasn't them. We want this board to be pleasant for Christians, and that really means us mods need to keep Atheists or non-Christians in check, especially those who might enjoy antagonising or frustrating Christians.
Furthermore, my own replies to you have been direct to any arguments and questions you've asked, if you want to go after the fallacies like ad hominems
, well there are avoidance and diversion fallacies that many Atheists tend to commit. They love to poke in, with their questionings and like, try and bait Christians. And then when given multiple responses, they think because they don't personally find the responses satisfying that such frees them from any burden of even answering questions back. It's a matter of challenge, and continue challenging, cheap shots, baiting, but then when the spotlight is put on them they often shirk any burden to answer questions back or justify their own positions beyond merely asserting them, and such is well, it's tiring. And, it does lead to unbecoming remarks from Christians who tire of such games.
I consider myself rather thick-skinned in such exchanges, more-so if I can tell the other person at least is putting in half as much as I often do into a discussion. But, at the end of the day we want this to be a pleasant Christian board with friends (on all sides) that respect each other as friends
, and aren't out like say with Facebook or YouTube comments to troll, antagonise or attack another or a group of people that they disagree with. This means putting in some skin and opening up, rather than just poking sticks.
So then, in light of all this, you are skating on thin ice, but that can become much thicker I believe in just changing the manner, being a bit more personal and friendly, and taking care to show some respect and sensitivity towards others. Not everyone here, are intellects or care to debate, there are many who for some reason or another, just like the place and being among other Christians who can help with a question here or there, or even just feel encouraged in life by people in an online community they've come to respect.
I hope the above puts some more perspective on matters, I wasn't going to post Christmas day but saw it wouldn't be good to let my reply wait. Hope you have enjoy Christmas with your kids (I think I recall somewhere you saying you had some).