K: What I see is the foundational thing we're really disagreeing over here, is that homosexuality is wrong.
Boom! That's it!
Dan: Homosexuality is not a choice...
It's either a choice OR God created people with inner desires that A) He says are an abomination when practiced, and B) holds them up with unrepentant adulterers, etc., as those who will not be saved. Does God give a desire He says is a terrible sin? Do you not believe what God warns about in Scripture concerning the unrepentant practice of homosexuality?
Dan: ... and neither is seeking a close bond relationship, both are inbuilt desires that we are born with...
We are BORN with a sin nature - why would you be surprised that what comes natural to man (desire to sin), is any different when it comes to the sin of practicing homosexuality?
Dan: To deny these desires can have disastrous effects on the individual and usually results in things like suicide, depression and anxiety. It is a cruel joke to be born in such a way and then to be denied what is so intrinsic to being a human being.
The behaviors inherit in homosexuality lead to many negative consequences that are FAR beyond the percentages for heterosexuals. Of course, many heterosexuals are not living out their sexuality as God instructed either. But the high margin of damage should tell you something.
Dan: I believe that this is not a problem of what we view as sin or not, I believe it is a problem of grace and mercy. Supplying a cake with a message is no more or no less supportive of a person lifestyle as it is supplying a cake to an obese person or supply a cake with no message at all. It is plain and simple discrimination against a people who are just trying to live their lives as best they can with what they were given, they are not violating anyone else's basic human rights or trying to impose their beliefs on anyone else.
Bullcrap! Then force the gay baker to decorate cakes a wedding cake so that it reads: "Marriage as God ordained it: Adam & Eve - one man and one woman!" Is that okay? AND, why, if I wanted a cake decorated like that, must I ONLY choose a GAY baker's shop? If they refuse me, has that really damaged my ability to get such a cake? Are we to think people can't take their business where someone will accommodate them? What hogwash that statement is! Make the atheist baker celebrate Christ on a cake. Etc!