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- Fri Aug 22, 2014 8:02 am
- Forum: God and Science
- Topic: Evolution in history class?
- Replies: 56
- Views: 11323
Re: Evolution in history class?
That you were talking about those who "...believe both in evolution and divine intervention...". That is what theistic evolutionists believe. They believe in a God, and evolution. You've already indicated that the term "theistic evolution" covers a "huge spectrum" . Wh...
- Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:31 am
- Forum: God and Science
- Topic: Evolution in history class?
- Replies: 56
- Views: 11323
Re: Evolution in history class?
Two views: 1) Adam and Eve were special creations, so that isn't an issue there. 2) Adam and Eve were the first fully evolved humans and thus received a spirit OR the first human to be born with a spirit. In option 2, that God decided to give them a spirit and not their parents isn't an issue becau...
- Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:29 am
- Forum: God and Science
- Topic: Evolution in history class?
- Replies: 56
- Views: 11323
Re: Evolution in history class?
Philip wrote: My son is a high school junior this year. What I've said is, don't' get combative but be able to articulate the material. One doesn't need to believe in evolution (I don't) to accurately state what the the theory encompasses or what various people believe about it. Also, I think it's ...
- Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:23 am
- Forum: God and Science
- Topic: Evolution in history class?
- Replies: 56
- Views: 11323
Re: Evolution in history class?
You are speaking about theistic evolution. There's such a huge spectrum of beliefs within theistic evolution. Saying, "Evolution says Adam and Eve had parents." Is just not accurate. Some TEs do believe Adam was a special creation, without parents. No, I'm speaking about evolution. The ev...
- Wed Aug 20, 2014 8:56 am
- Forum: God and Science
- Topic: Evolution in history class?
- Replies: 56
- Views: 11323
Re: Evolution in history class?
I hate to break the bad news to you Morny, but Adam and Eve didn't have parents. :oops: Irrelevant. But in the plausible case that you're not joking, I stated in a post in this topic from 4 days ago that my comments/questions are directed at people who believe both in evolution and divine intervent...
- Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:13 am
- Forum: God and Science
- Topic: Evolution in history class?
- Replies: 56
- Views: 11323
Re: Evolution in history class?
Two views: 1) Adam and Eve were special creations, so that isn't an issue there. 2) Adam and Eve were the first fully evolved humans and thus received a spirit OR the first human to be born with a spirit. In option 2, that God decided to give them a spirit and not their parents isn't an issue becau...
- Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:07 am
- Forum: God and Science
- Topic: Evolution in history class?
- Replies: 56
- Views: 11323
Re: Evolution in history class?
The thing is that it is clear that the notion of ALL mankind being from two people a very close time ago, is being shown over and over to be very very unlikely. We would have to take into account VAST migrations of masses of people to repopulate the earth after the flood. The math really isn't ther...
- Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:04 am
- Forum: God and Science
- Topic: Evolution in history class?
- Replies: 56
- Views: 11323
Re: Evolution in history class?
My son is a high school junior this year. What I've said is, don't' get combative but be able to articulate the material. One doesn't need to believe in evolution (I don't) to accurately state what the the theory encompasses or what various people believe about it. Also, I think it's important to n...
- Tue Aug 19, 2014 9:58 am
- Forum: God and Science
- Topic: Evolution in history class?
- Replies: 56
- Views: 11323
Re: Evolution in history class?
I think you're conflating soul and spirit. OK, fine. The same argument applies to spirit. Reconciling what has been proven about evolution and the creation of man is never easy of course, especially since the Genesis account is not a scientific statement on creation but a theological one. That said...
- Tue Aug 19, 2014 7:03 am
- Forum: God and Science
- Topic: Evolution in history class?
- Replies: 56
- Views: 11323
Re: Evolution in history class?
OK, fine. The same argument applies to spirit.RickD wrote:I think you're conflating soul and spirit.
- Sat Aug 16, 2014 5:46 pm
- Forum: God and Science
- Topic: Evolution in history class?
- Replies: 56
- Views: 11323
Re: Evolution in history class?
Mel, I believe the official position of the Catholic Church says Adam and Eve were real people. http://www.catholic.com/tracts/adam-eve-and-evolution Maybe Byblos would know a little more. Yes, the literal Adam and Eve is de fide. But this does not preclude traditional evolutionary understanding si...
- Tue Jul 15, 2014 7:57 pm
- Forum: God and Science
- Topic: Evolutionary "Transition Forms?" Definitions are Key!
- Replies: 21
- Views: 5026
Re: Evolutionary "Transition Forms?" Definitions are Key!
Simply put, if you find what has been described as some intermediate, transitional form of an animal's supposed evolutionary lineage, in the fossil record AFTER its supposed ending (so far, per macroevolution) form, then you've got to explain that - because it doesn't add up to the asserted evoluti...
- Tue Jul 15, 2014 8:26 am
- Forum: God and Science
- Topic: Evolutionary "Transition Forms?" Definitions are Key!
- Replies: 21
- Views: 5026
Re: Evolutionary "Transition Forms?" Definitions are Key!
http://www.reasons.org/articles/q-a-are-there-transitional-intermediates-in-the-fossil-record To believe evolution per macroevolutionary scenarious is factual, one must have a lot of faith that the temporal paradox problems noted are not really significant. Morphologically out-of-order fishapods be...
- Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:58 pm
- Forum: God and Science
- Topic: A discussion about Science and religion
- Replies: 75
- Views: 16449
Re: A discussion about Science and religion
It doesn't matter if you can quote other work that speak to the bluster of the majority. [...] I don't much care what a bunch of scientists have to say about other researchers that falsify their own work. I agree, which is why I rely on evidence. In 1973, Tifft reported redshift clustering/periodic...
- Sun Jun 29, 2014 5:03 pm
- Forum: God and Science
- Topic: A discussion about Science and religion
- Replies: 75
- Views: 16449
Re: A discussion about Science and religion
Look Morny, I think the problem is that because you never respond to the information I present, I skim some of your posts and hardly read them. Yes, on looking back I can see that you were going on about whatever, but never made a statement about the Milky Way having a centre. Got it. Taking the ti...