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- Fri Dec 16, 2011 4:56 pm
- Forum: Christian Theology
- Topic: John Wesley's theology
- Replies: 422
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Re: John Wesley's theology
I guess you would have to ask each individual that was presented with the gospel. I can tell you why I chose to believe, but, I can't speak for anyone else. I wouldn't say anything "makes" anyone believe. So it is uncaused? Please explain the logic behind that. If there are two choices, a...
- Fri Dec 16, 2011 2:16 pm
- Forum: Christian Theology
- Topic: John Wesley's theology
- Replies: 422
- Views: 109159
Re: John Wesley's theology
The how seems to be that they were predestined, that's how, isn't that what it means to be predestined ? That God has predestined some to be saved? If they are predestined to be saved, that is hwo they are saved, via being predestined, yes? That is my question. No, the "how" is most assur...
- Fri Dec 16, 2011 2:05 pm
- Forum: Christian Theology
- Topic: John Wesley's theology
- Replies: 422
- Views: 109159
Re: John Wesley's theology
Choice is seldom easy.There are many reasons why some believe and others don't, just as there are many reasons why some are of one denomination and some of another. Free will to choose based on what we know and allow ourselves to know. So if it is based on what we know, how is it free? Free from wh...
- Fri Dec 16, 2011 2:03 pm
- Forum: Christian Theology
- Topic: John Wesley's theology
- Replies: 422
- Views: 109159
Re: John Wesley's theology
The part that didn't answer my questions: If the elect and only the elect are predestined to be saved and only they will be saved, why did God bother with the OT Law ?? I ask again and I apologise if I am not understanding you but, if God has ALREADY predestined the elect and ONLY the elect are sav...
- Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:52 pm
- Forum: Christian Theology
- Topic: John Wesley's theology
- Replies: 422
- Views: 109159
Re: John Wesley's despicable theology
August, All aren't saved, because some have not accepted the only means for salvation. The efficacious work of Christ. It's actually a pretty simple message. God loved people so much, that all one has to do, is believe on Christ, and then eternal life is guaranteed. I really don't understand why th...
- Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:47 pm
- Forum: Christian Theology
- Topic: John Wesley's theology
- Replies: 422
- Views: 109159
Re: John Wesley's despicable theology
Because that was the means that God had decreed for His people to be saved. Under the covenant of works people are judged for what they do, and when they trespass, there is punishment. In the OT the punishment was a substitionary sacrifice of perhaps an animal that took the place of the guilty, and...
- Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:32 pm
- Forum: Christian Theology
- Topic: John Wesley's theology
- Replies: 422
- Views: 109159
Re: John Wesley's despicable theology
The quesiont I was trying to get answered was that IF God had predestined that only some would be saved and only those are saved and those are the elect, then WHY did Jesus have to die? God had ALREADY predestined them to be saved so their salavation was a "done deal". Now it has been arg...
- Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:56 pm
- Forum: Christian Theology
- Topic: John Wesley's theology
- Replies: 422
- Views: 109159
Re: John Wesley's despicable theology
John 3:16 says he loved the world and he gave his son for the world...anything you would like to negate? But as for your question, it is because it is also up to them to decide whether they will choose God or not. As I said earlier,I still have to see a convincing argument which satisfies John 3:16...
- Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:34 am
- Forum: Christian Theology
- Topic: John Wesley's theology
- Replies: 422
- Views: 109159
Re: John Wesley's despicable theology
RickD » Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:48 pm First I read Wesley's sermon, "Free Grace", then I read Whitefield's letter to Wesley. I certainly don't see Wesley's sermon disagreeing with biblical predestination, at all. Wesley's sermon, to me, reads like a refutation, or disagreement with Calvinism's...
- Fri Dec 16, 2011 4:54 am
- Forum: Prayer Requests
- Topic: Writer Christopher Hitchens to undergo chemotherapy
- Replies: 11
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Re: Writer Christopher Hitchens to undergo chemotherapy
Well he has passed away. I hope he made his peace before he did, but I did not see anything like that reported.
- Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:08 pm
- Forum: God and Science
- Topic: A few questions
- Replies: 40
- Views: 11563
Re: A few questions
How long is the 7th day? 24 hours? Am I missing something, why are we still in the 7th day of God's creation? Did God start creating again? Also, we read in Heb 3 & 4 of His rest. A couple things. - Why do you feel God would need to "dumb it down" for ancient man? From what I've read,...
- Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:58 pm
- Forum: Christian Theology
- Topic: John Wesley's theology
- Replies: 422
- Views: 109159
Re: John Wesley's despicable theology
It took a while but I think you are finally getting it.Canuckster1127 wrote:Interesting choice of venue. So, anything not Calvinistic is Aberrant Christianity? Calvinism and Christianity are interchangable terms?
- Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:01 pm
- Forum: God and Science
- Topic: A few questions
- Replies: 40
- Views: 11563
Re: A few questions
Paul, that would approach the way that ANE people would have interpreted it. One has to consider not only the theological circumstances of the ANE, but also the cultural and wider sociological environment. When I have more time I will elaborate. Don't know what "ANE" means...sorry. To me ...
- Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:52 am
- Forum: God and Science
- Topic: A few questions
- Replies: 40
- Views: 11563
Re: A few questions
Paul, that would approach the way that ANE people would have interpreted it. One has to consider not only the theological circumstances of the ANE, but also the cultural and wider sociological environment. When I have more time I will elaborate.
- Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:55 am
- Forum: God and Science
- Topic: A few questions
- Replies: 40
- Views: 11563
Re: A few questions
How long is the 7th day?