Evidence for God from Science

No-one, including Calvinists, deny that one has to believe in order to be saved. I would beg to differ. Because the word believe is being equivocated to suit the argument. Without question the position that PL presents is that belief is a result of salvation. The believer is programed for belief. I...

1over137 on Wed Dec 21, 2011 6:31 pm neo-x wrote: what about 1 John 2:2 He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world. When someone believes, God saves them. It is really that simple, Hana. But what about 1 John 2:2, “He Himself is the prop...

If the question is God we really can't start AT God with a skeptic, you can't start from what doesn't exist. At to that if what IS being question is God's character then simply saying " God's right or God says so" isn't good enough. That is why I say different approaches for different peo...

When you have the likes of Hitchens and others, proclaiming that God is indeed a moral monster, I don't think that many of the arguments of the past hold much sway now. Arguments like " It is God' right to punish those he sees fit" or "God shows mercy on who he chooses", or thin...

So what exactly is the problem here? Atheists think God is a meanie because he killed kids for calling a guy bald. That is down playing a serious issues that many people have, truly. It's enough of an issue that we have books like Paul Coplan's " Is God a Moral Monster?". It is NOT one ea...

wrain62 wrote:So what exactly is the problem here?

Atheists think God is a meanie because he killed kids for calling a guy bald.

PaulSacramento wrote:I assume you missed my last post

Cross-posted. Great minds etc...

The account does NOT state that they were a threat to him. They insulted his lack of hair and he cursed them. Not something Christ would condone, do you agree? No, read it more carefully. They did not insult him, they insulted the One who sent him. The bald head is a contrast to the long hair of El...

RickD wrote:http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/destined.html
http://www.godandscience.org/doctrine/forgiveness.html

Long on rhetoric, short on argument.

My definition of evil is simple, the complete contradiction of love, thus my initial quote "God loves you". If God loves you, why does he ban you to an eternity of hell? Irrelevent to what your actions may be. Unconiditional love is lacking from God. So you are now changing the argument. ...

"God loves you" If so, whence come pain, sorrow and evil? For all who preach here, I give you Epicurus "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is wicked. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he...

Brothers, this is almost the same things we have been arguing about in the last month. Predestination, salvation,etc etc. I seriously don't think going down the road again is gonna change anything...so lets get back to topic. The point I made in my post was, the Wesley didn't believe in the Calvini...

Well he has passed away. I hope he made his peace before he did, but I did not see anything like that reported. Or if he did, do you really think "his people" would want that broadcast? O heck no. His body wasn't even cold when they starting turning him into an atheist martyr or saint. Wh...

Thanks for all of your posts. I've really just wanted to give up lately. I feel like if I refuse to give up my sins, He won't accept my plea for salvation. I mean, I know that sounds all mixed up, but my mind's all mixed up lately. I'm trying though. I really don't want to give up. I apologize for ...

God tells us "'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind'. Using the mind requires thinking, last time I checked. I always have to wonder what the atheist "free thinkers" are free from? They claim that they are ...