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by BavarianWheels
Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:05 pm
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: The Sabbath, to keep or not to keep....
Replies: 405
Views: 35799

Re: The Sabbath, to keep or not to keep....

THE CHRISTIAN SABBATH The Genuine Offspring of the Union of the Holy Spirit and the Catholic Church His Spouse. The claims of Protestantism to Any Part Therein Proved to Be Groundless, Self-Contradictory, and Suicidal. No Protestant living today has ever yet obeyed that command preferring to follow...
by BavarianWheels
Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:57 pm
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: The Sabbath, to keep or not to keep....
Replies: 405
Views: 35799

Re: The Sabbath, to keep or not to keep....

THE CHRISTIAN SABBATH The Genuine Offspring of the Union of the Holy Spirit and the Catholic Church His Spouse. The claims of Protestantism to Any Part Therein Proved to Be Groundless, Self-Contradictory, and Suicidal. The Adventists are the only body of Christians with the Bible as their teacher, ...
by BavarianWheels
Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:48 pm
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: The Sabbath, to keep or not to keep....
Replies: 405
Views: 35799

Re: The Sabbath, to keep or not to keep....

Contextually, there isn't anything in Genesis 3 that says any such thing. Certainly not to defend that everyone post Adam was an Israelite. Not sure why you'd even try to pursue that argument. It certainly doesn't excuse how you have ignored the greater counsel of scripture, which is clear on the d...
by BavarianWheels
Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:00 pm
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: The Sabbath, to keep or not to keep....
Replies: 405
Views: 35799

Re: The Sabbath, to keep or not to keep....

You've referenced Exodus 16:22 before pertaining to this subject, but I still don't see where God dedicated THAT particular day as the Sabbath. It was the Israelites who already knew when their Sabbath falls (based on tradition) and gathered manna for 2 days instead of one so as not to break the Sa...
by BavarianWheels
Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:39 pm
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: The Sabbath, to keep or not to keep....
Replies: 405
Views: 35799

Re: The Sabbath, to keep or not to keep....

As for God working: Now it was the Sabbath on that day. 10 So the Jews were saying to the man who was cured, “It is the Sabbath, and it is not permissible for you to carry your pallet.” 11 But he answered them, “He who made me well was the one who said to me, ‘Pick up your pallet and walk.’” 12 The...
by BavarianWheels
Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:31 pm
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: The Sabbath, to keep or not to keep....
Replies: 405
Views: 35799

Re: The Sabbath, to keep or not to keep....

I took it the other way around, that every day is an opportunity to be a Sabbath day. My issue with this debate has never been with whether or not we ought to observe the Sabbath (need I really remind everyone ad nauseum that it's not a salvation issue?) but with it being understood on a particular...
by BavarianWheels
Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:18 pm
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: Revelation
Replies: 37
Views: 3563

Re: Revelation

So, I say it this way: God gave us free will and with that the possibility to oppose Him. Yet, when one does not accept Christ as his Saviour he is penalized forever. Penalized? Is not death a fact on both sides? Does not the most hardened atheist understand his/her own mortality? What difference d...
by BavarianWheels
Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:10 pm
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: The Sabbath, to keep or not to keep....
Replies: 405
Views: 35799

Re: The Sabbath, to keep or not to keep....

Of course there is also the issue that God is STILL WORKING, as is Christ. BUT in all honesty, we have to realize that no one is gonna convince the other in this matter and because of that, we truly should just take Paul's advice and leave it as such. That has been my contention all along. Are you ...
by BavarianWheels
Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:44 am
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: The Sabbath, to keep or not to keep....
Replies: 405
Views: 35799

Re: The Sabbath, to keep or not to keep....

The Gospel was first taught to Adam ( Genesis 3:21 )...so "Israel" are those that are the lost sheep which is every person after Adam. The word Gospel simply means good news or glad tidings. The verse you quote says nothing about this. Further, to say that Israel is every person after Ada...
by BavarianWheels
Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:44 am
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: The Sabbath, to keep or not to keep....
Replies: 405
Views: 35799

Re: The Sabbath, to keep or not to keep....

Bav, :xxpuke: + :sleep: means I'm sick + tired of debating this. I have my interpretation, and you have yours. I'm fine at this point, to let it go at that, because we can't agree. Just as long as you realize, that just because you think you are correct, and scripture is clear, that it is YOUR INTE...
by BavarianWheels
Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:40 pm
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: The Sabbath, to keep or not to keep....
Replies: 405
Views: 35799

Re: The Sabbath, to keep or not to keep....

BW. Matt. 24 was spoken to all Jews. And Jesus said his earthly ministry was not for the Gentiles. Regrading Romans 2:13. If you want to prooftext this verse this way, and apply it this way, then you are saying we should interpret that Paul is saying salvation (imputed righteousness) is by followin...
by BavarianWheels
Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:31 pm
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: The Sabbath, to keep or not to keep....
Replies: 405
Views: 35799

Re: The Sabbath, to keep or not to keep....

RickD wrote: :xxpuke:


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by BavarianWheels
Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:56 pm
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: The Sabbath, to keep or not to keep....
Replies: 405
Views: 35799

Re: The Sabbath, to keep or not to keep....

Bav, you keep the sabbath, as one day holier than others. [...] Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy. I'll simply do as God has written. You do as you please...as your tradition dictates. I'll see every day as being equal. My conscience is clear on this issue. As I'm sure you...
by BavarianWheels
Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:28 pm
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: The Sabbath, to keep or not to keep....
Replies: 405
Views: 35799

Re: The Sabbath, to keep or not to keep....

yes, that was the Talmud, but the majority consensus by Hebrew scholars is also the Gentiles were not under the Sabbath (though they would get the day of rest if living/working under a Hebrew). So our faith now is based on majority consensus. Got it. The Sabbath was a covenant between God and Israe...
by BavarianWheels
Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:48 am
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: The Sabbath, to keep or not to keep....
Replies: 405
Views: 35799

Re: The Sabbath, to keep or not to keep....

Firstly, you ignore that it ( the 10 ) is a ministry of death ONLY to sinners. According to whom? Logic. I found my "logic". It had eluded me and I forgot to go back and find it. We know that the law is good if one uses it properly. 9 We also know that law* is made not for the righteous b...

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