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by BavarianWheels
Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:19 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: I am a . . .
Replies: 12
Views: 2406

For example, there is Scripture (biblical), tradition (ecclesiastical?), experience (pneumatological perhaps?) and reason. I think "reason" is perhaps being overlooked in the above (rational Christians?). This seems to imply that a "Biblical/Scripture" Christian is without reason and irrational. It...
by BavarianWheels
Thu Sep 09, 2004 10:06 pm
Forum: Moral and Ethical Affairs
Topic: "Jesus died for our sins"
Replies: 42
Views: 8801

Hi BW, just letting you know I didn't get that implication in your words, but I just thought to clarify the point further. Also, just something additional to think on is that Genesis only ever says God saw his creation as "good" and "very good." I believe Augustine within the fourth century was per...
by BavarianWheels
Thu Sep 09, 2004 8:34 pm
Forum: Moral and Ethical Affairs
Topic: "Jesus died for our sins"
Replies: 42
Views: 8801

I think such is misleading of BW's words, being "in a state of sin and imperfect" is different from being "made" in such a state. Obviously the strawman is faultable, but it's not the strawman we believe. The most God allowed for was the opportunity for sin, for which it could be said God saw our f...
by BavarianWheels
Thu Sep 09, 2004 4:41 pm
Forum: Moral and Ethical Affairs
Topic: "Jesus died for our sins"
Replies: 42
Views: 8801

Bavarian Wheels, I have to confess I didn't really understand much of your post. That's probably why I'm not a pastor or theologian. I'm an average joe who understands the Gospel, but apparently cannot put it down in words. Sorry...I'll keep trying. And since God made the rules (per BavarianWheels)...
by BavarianWheels
Wed Sep 08, 2004 6:29 pm
Forum: Moral and Ethical Affairs
Topic: "Jesus died for our sins"
Replies: 42
Views: 8801

Firstly...it doesn't absolve the Human race from it's sins Ok - so assume I meant people who have accepted Christ etc etc and not the whole human race. It is God that makes the rules...it is God that says to sin is to die. It is God's death that affords all of humanity reconcilliation, but not all ...
by BavarianWheels
Wed Sep 08, 2004 8:18 am
Forum: Moral and Ethical Affairs
Topic: "Jesus died for our sins"
Replies: 42
Views: 8801

Re: This confused me too

...and his dying allows us to die and go to heaven, assuming we have accepted Jesus and lived good Christian lives. While partially true, there is nothing one can do to gain heaven. It is of faith only. The partially true part is that one lives what one believes. The proof of one's faith is in the ...
by BavarianWheels
Tue Sep 07, 2004 2:55 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Which types of evidence?
Replies: 30
Views: 6440

I have lost interest, I don't like the games you are playing. So that's the last you will hear of this Christian. When you delete a persons posts as much as you do and lock threads on important things for no reason it reveals your true heart as typfied by your Pentecostal background. You said this ...
by BavarianWheels
Tue Sep 07, 2004 2:44 pm
Forum: Moral and Ethical Affairs
Topic: "Jesus died for our sins"
Replies: 42
Views: 8801

Re: "Jesus died for our sins"

Every person in a Christian society knows that "God sent Jesus, his only sons, so that he might die for our sins". I am assuming that sins are sins before God (breaches of the commandments etc.) My question is this: How, or why, does God sacrificing his son absolve the human race from its sins? I h...
by BavarianWheels
Tue Sep 07, 2004 1:54 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Which types of evidence?
Replies: 30
Views: 6440

Blind Electric Ray wrote:Jesus didn't do anything too outrageously supernatural (ok, he produced a few fishes and loaves; walked on water, but no *real* showstoppers), and indeed had trouble convincing people himself.


...Outrageous...as in bringing a dead man back to life?

Just a thought.
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by BavarianWheels
Mon Sep 06, 2004 12:12 am
Forum: General Discussion & Introductions
Topic: Please Introduce Yourself Here
Replies: 2154
Views: 218647

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