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by trulyenlightened
Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:07 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: The Truth Surrounding the Theory of Evolution and its Rationale
Replies: 208
Views: 67143

Re: The Truth Surrounding the Theory of Evolution and its Rationale

What metaphysical or Theological discoveries have been discovered in the last 1000 years? Name one new discovery! You do realize that the CORE of science, the scientific method, the is a view that we CAN know the universe around us and that there is a degree of "predictability" ( repeat-a...
by trulyenlightened
Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:33 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: The Truth Surrounding the Theory of Evolution and its Rationale
Replies: 208
Views: 67143

Re: The Truth Surrounding the Theory of Evolution and its Rationale

Truly: I never claimed that Scientists can't believe in a God. I never stated that Dr. Ross and Co. did not have impeccable credentials. So please, no more straw man. No, but you tried to discredit their science views per how they think the science supports their spiritual beliefs Truly: require th...
by trulyenlightened
Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:26 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: The Truth Surrounding the Theory of Evolution and its Rationale
Replies: 208
Views: 67143

Re: The Truth Surrounding the Theory of Evolution and its Rationale

TrulyE: I was just wondering why Philip would choose someone so controversial, that even people of faith take issue with his Biblical interpretations. Citing AIG just further shows me your ignorance of how you think most Christians must view issues of Creationism. AIG has repeatedly asserted things...
by trulyenlightened
Wed Dec 06, 2017 3:37 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Skepticism and the Principle of Sufficient Reason
Replies: 178
Views: 56390

Re: Skepticism and the Principle of Sufficient Reason

One step at a time since you don't seem the grasp what Aquinas is ACTUALLY saying but are confusing it with what you THINK he is saying. The first step is to understand that a contingent thing is dependent on something else to cause it to exist BUT also to continue existing, do you agree with that?...
by trulyenlightened
Wed Dec 06, 2017 3:33 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Skepticism and the Principle of Sufficient Reason
Replies: 178
Views: 56390

Re: Skepticism and the Principle of Sufficient Reason

let's find out how far you will go to avoid being exposed. :pound: 1. From your syllogism, how did you deduce from your premises(propositions) that you are NOT sitting? (1) If A, B, and C obtain, then I cannot fail to be sitting (2) A, B, and C obtain, (3) Therefore, I am sitting (4) But I am not s...
by trulyenlightened
Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:40 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Skepticism and the Principle of Sufficient Reason
Replies: 178
Views: 56390

Re: Skepticism and the Principle of Sufficient Reason

I think that I get the issue here. The issue is that Aquinas is calling this thing that is pure actuality and the sustainer of all "God". Of course he call call it "Bill". Aquinas says.." and this WE call God". He says this because he is making a defense of the Christi...
by trulyenlightened
Tue Dec 05, 2017 11:27 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Skepticism and the Principle of Sufficient Reason
Replies: 178
Views: 56390

Re: Skepticism and the Principle of Sufficient Reason

I go through both his arguments in painstaking detail, offering rebuttals step by step, showing him where he is wrong, formatting and properly quoting it for easy reference. And what do I get in return? This incoherent mess, both in substance and format. :shakehead: ' It is like a child who is taki...
by trulyenlightened
Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:06 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Skepticism and the Principle of Sufficient Reason
Replies: 178
Views: 56390

Re: Skepticism and the Principle of Sufficient Reason

So you answer to my question is that NO, something that is contingent on something else to exist CAN't cause itself to exist, correct? Your question was, "Please explain how something contingent ( something that is caused by something else to come into existence) can have as itself, the cause ...
by trulyenlightened
Mon Dec 04, 2017 8:13 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Skepticism and the Principle of Sufficient Reason
Replies: 178
Views: 56390

Re: Skepticism and the Principle of Sufficient Reason

Honestly, I seems that you simply don't understand Aquinas argument at all. Please explain how something contingent ( something that is caused by something else to come into existence) can have as itself, the cause for it's own existence. At least you didn't disappoint me by simply asserting that I...
by trulyenlightened
Mon Dec 04, 2017 6:58 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Skepticism and the Principle of Sufficient Reason
Replies: 178
Views: 56390

Re: Skepticism and the Principle of Sufficient Reason

PaulSacramento wrote:LOL !!!
Edward Feser just face palmed !!
After or before he checks his bank balance? And to think I actually gave you a "thumbs-up". Don
by trulyenlightened
Mon Dec 04, 2017 6:38 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: The Truth Surrounding the Theory of Evolution and its Rationale
Replies: 208
Views: 67143

Re: The Truth Surrounding the Theory of Evolution and its Rationale

Wow, if you're definitely getting your information from sources you must think are extremely credible Don. I thought you claimed to be all scientific, and yet your goto are YEC sites like AiG? :P :lol: My use of these sites, was to demonstrate that even YEC and AiG sites have issues with Dr. Ross's...
by trulyenlightened
Mon Dec 04, 2017 3:14 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: The Truth Surrounding the Theory of Evolution and its Rationale
Replies: 208
Views: 67143

Re: The Truth Surrounding the Theory of Evolution and its Rationale

Truly: Then I looked at the name of the site "reason.org". "Reason.org" and "answers in Genesis", both require their scientist to sign a stack deck, stating that all evidence they present must ONLY support the Christian Belief. No reputable scientist would ever enter i...
by trulyenlightened
Sun Dec 03, 2017 10:25 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Skepticism and the Principle of Sufficient Reason
Replies: 178
Views: 56390

Re: Skepticism and the Principle of Sufficient Reason

It also seems that the only justification for claiming that infinite causation does not exist is CIRCULAR REASONING! Do you not claim that if there is no uncaused causer, immovable mover, or an unactualized actualizer, that nothing would exist? And, then you conclude that since everything we see doe...
by trulyenlightened
Sun Dec 03, 2017 9:53 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Skepticism and the Principle of Sufficient Reason
Replies: 178
Views: 56390

Re: Skepticism and the Principle of Sufficient Reason

Okay, let's address this incoherent mess once and for all. I will just ignore all the irrelevant stuff for now and concentrate on the two main points, i.e. the (I) PSR and (II) Aquinas. (I) PSR: I agree that for everything that exists, there must exist a reason or explanation for that existence. I ...
by trulyenlightened
Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:55 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Skepticism and the Principle of Sufficient Reason
Replies: 178
Views: 56390

Re: Skepticism and the Principle of Sufficient Reason

And if you don't understand why infinite regress is not possible then you don't have the basic grasp of Aquinas, at all. Not only do I not understand why an infinite regression of causality is not possible, I would also like to know, HOW DOES AQUINAS KNOW , without simply making self-serving philos...