Evidence for God from Science

etc, we can go on if you like. I'm not meaning to be a jerk here, honest. And hold a literal concept of hell, with fire, and guys with pitchforks sticking bad people, as long as you want to, ok, the alliteration works fine for me. Just to be clear i did read the OP, but if i had connected that BW wi...

Ezekiel 32 is literally whispering at you, 18 “Son of man, wail for the hordes of Egypt and consign to the earth below both her and the daughters of mighty nations, along with those who go down to the pit." wherein neither Gehenna, Sheol, nor Hades is invoked; the word used is the same as for &...

like the Job passage you quote, the Isaiah one is also written as alliteration, and note that Sheol is not even invoked in the Lex at that passage.

Job 26:6 Sheol http://biblehub.com/hebrew/7585.htm should be read with the understanding that "all go to the same place," and you and i are going there, too. Note how Job literally ties these to Erets , Earth: 5The departed spirits tremble beneath the waters and all that inhabit them.  6•S...

didn't see any "hell" mentioned in any of those? And i suggest that there is a spiritual principle at work there, in the tossing of stuff into a pit, anyway, that a literal tossing of anything does not really consider or even approach. And if the pit is disconnected from Gehenna somehow, i...

ya, just try being for the "other guy" in most churches, though, and see what that gets ya

Rick, let's take the matter of Jesus' confirmations of the OT as being Scripture, and that He came to fulfill the OT - how can those things be true, but not literally so? Now, I'm not asking whether Jesus was saying the Scriptures themselves were all LITERALLY true (as they can be true in various w...

So where did those kids of yours who died during pregnancy end up? Hell because of the original sin or? If you are going to say heaven because the kids are innocent, what is the use of baptism and removing the original sin, then? IMO, Biblically speaking, when a person dies ( no matter the stage of...

no kidding; or his own. It is us, after all, bombing them back to the Stone Age for their oil, lol.

7 It's simply perverse to say, "If my lies serve to show off God's truth all the more gloriously, why blame me? I'm doing God a favor." 8 Some people are actually trying to put such words in our mouths, claiming that we go around saying, "The more evil we do, the more good God does, s...

agree -- covenant went through Isaac / not Ishmael.

but that is a spiritual covenant, and Ishmael was circumcised; the spiritual significance of that should not be ignored imo.

'Nations' are made up of People. exactly The United States of America is a 'one nation under God' that is exactly what it is not, although it desires to be perceived in that way. We have many, many nations in the country known as "USA," right? Sioux Nations, Cherokee Nations, Eskimo Natio...

i'm mostly ex-Pentecostal, last 25 years but 5, so that is really a small part. you guys might consider that you have been accepted into a system wherein life does not even start for you until some future, undefined date, and those we have accepted this model from would interpret "to be absent...

i'm mostly ex-Pentecostal, last 25 years but 5, so that is really a small part. you guys might consider that you have been accepted into a system wherein life does not even start for you until some future, undefined date, and those we have accepted this model from would interpret "to be absent ...

Well, i understand that many of those points up there are not too pleasant to contemplate, but unfortunately the whole truth would surely break your hearts. Prolly mine, too. More than one USGov worker in the know has directly stated as much. So, we manifest 1Sam8 whether we want to admit it or not....