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- Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:34 am
- Forum: Questioning Non-belief
- Topic: Nature of Reality: A Challenge to Atheists
- Replies: 258
- Views: 101910
Re: Nature of Reality: A Challenge to Atheists
I may not have knowledge (100% absolute certainty) Can anyone have 100% absolute certainty of anything? If so, who, and how? If not, Just because you claim to KNOW the bible as the word of God doesn’t mean I am going to take your word for it any more than if you just claimed to believe it was, and ...
- Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:02 am
- Forum: Questioning Non-belief
- Topic: Nature of Reality: A Challenge to Atheists
- Replies: 258
- Views: 101910
Re: Nature of Reality: A Challenge to Atheists
but you are at a disadvantage because you don't know regarding this subject. I wouldn’t claim to be at a disadvantage, but I do recognize what I believe to be right could be wrong. Thus to be fair, the burden of proof lies with the Gnostic Theists, Yes the burden of proof lies with the person makin...
- Sun Aug 16, 2015 7:40 am
- Forum: Questioning Non-belief
- Topic: In defense of objective morals
- Replies: 175
- Views: 54876
Re: In defense of objective morals
Objective morality requires a moral base. That base has to be right at all times; do you agree? The base attempts to be right. The objective base we attempt to know is not necessarily the base we have access to. Nothing stops us from questioning the base. In fact, it is dangerous to not question. p...
- Sun Aug 16, 2015 4:47 am
- Forum: God and Science
- Topic: The God Delusion
- Replies: 66
- Views: 17356
Re: The God Delusion
I would also like to hear this explanation, or if you have one, a rationale for why you don't like using this argument for your students.Jac3510 wrote: I'm tempted to launch into an explanation of the premise I characterized as seemingly unfair but logically necessary, but I want to hold off on that.
- Sun Aug 16, 2015 3:21 am
- Forum: Questioning Non-belief
- Topic: In defense of objective morals
- Replies: 175
- Views: 54876
Re: In defense of objective morals
Additionally, the concern I believe Theists have in turn is how can we agree what is or isn't moral? What happens if I feel aborting embryos is okay and someone else feels it's murder? On what basis do we decide which is right? If you agree morality is subjective, you are open to discussing it, and...
- Sun Aug 16, 2015 1:25 am
- Forum: Questioning Non-belief
- Topic: Nature of Reality: A Challenge to Atheists
- Replies: 258
- Views: 101910
Re: Nature of Reality: A Challenge to Atheists
Only, I've never come across someone like you whose blinders just fell off short of them coming to Christ. Perhaps you were truly seeking with an open heart, and God opened your eyes so you could at least see the truth of his existence? I had to give this a lot of thought, because the problem isn't...
- Sat Aug 15, 2015 11:10 pm
- Forum: Questioning Non-belief
- Topic: Nature of Reality: A Challenge to Atheists
- Replies: 258
- Views: 101910
Re: Nature of Reality: A Challenge to Atheists
In other words, Theism and Atheism is about what you believe, Agnostic is about what you know; a totally different subject. Would you agree with this then? Gnostic Theist: evidence for God, therefore belief in God Agnostic Theist: can't have evidence; I choose to believe in God Agnostic Atheist: ca...
- Sat Aug 15, 2015 10:21 pm
- Forum: Questioning Non-belief
- Topic: Nature of Reality: A Challenge to Atheists
- Replies: 258
- Views: 101910
Re: Nature of Reality: A Challenge to Atheists
In other words, Theism and Atheism is about what you believe, Agnostic is about what you know; a totally different subject. Would you agree with this then? Gnostic Theist: evidence for God, therefore belief in God Agnostic Theist: can't have evidence; I choose to believe in God Agnostic Atheist: ca...
- Sat Aug 15, 2015 6:54 am
- Forum: Questioning Non-belief
- Topic: In defense of objective morals
- Replies: 175
- Views: 54876
Re: In defense of objective morals
What's stopping us from questioning what God says? If you present god A, and I present god B, and god B is shown to be immoral, doesn't that mean we've ruled out god B? EDIT - oops, I think I just hit the same thing Rick already pointed out. Theists don't seem to operate that way. They start from t...
- Sat Aug 15, 2015 6:41 am
- Forum: Questioning Non-belief
- Topic: Nature of Reality: A Challenge to Atheists
- Replies: 258
- Views: 101910
Re: Nature of Reality: A Challenge to Atheists
I'm a bit confused about the points you've made here; why do you feel none of the Atheists here are honest? Ken It has to do with the nature of honesty of which I am speaking. Atheists herein may well be emotionally honest, but I feel they are intellectually dishonest. Or perhaps it'd be better of ...
- Sat Aug 15, 2015 4:03 am
- Forum: Questioning Non-belief
- Topic: Nature of Reality: A Challenge to Atheists
- Replies: 258
- Views: 101910
Re: Nature of Reality: A Challenge to Atheists
Wow. Thank you and thank you again Kurieuo, both from making this thread and from having the patience to draw out the beliefs of those with wildly different views from your own. I've been trying to understand why so many people choose to believe in a God despite the lack of evidence and now I can se...
- Fri Aug 14, 2015 11:03 pm
- Forum: Questions for Christians
- Topic: How did you come to believe in miracles?
- Replies: 6
- Views: 2598
Re: How did you come to believe in miracles?
This is also something I think I need to learn more about. Are there passages you would recommend that speak to the nature of miracles?jlay wrote:Understanding the nature of miracles is important as well. Miracles are not random or arbitrary. Miracles are not a violation of natural law.
- Fri Aug 14, 2015 10:53 pm
- Forum: Questioning Non-belief
- Topic: In defense of objective morals
- Replies: 175
- Views: 54876
Re: In defense of objective morals
It is very simple and I don't why why people STILL continue to argue this. Morals are objective: The notion of right and wrong, good and bad is universal to ALL people and ALL culture through recorded history. The only thing that IS subjective is WHAT is viewed as right and wrong BUt the notion, th...
- Wed Aug 12, 2015 10:16 pm
- Forum: Questions for Christians
- Topic: How did you come to believe in miracles?
- Replies: 6
- Views: 2598
Re: How did you come to believe in miracles?
Despite all this, I have discovered it is not the great big miracle that causes one to believe in Jesus rather folks are drawn to Jesus out of the need to change their life course and that is the miracle most seen and so often overlooked... FWIW, this does seem to be the most compelling reason in m...
- Tue Aug 11, 2015 3:39 pm
- Forum: Questions for Christians
- Topic: Catholicism and good works
- Replies: 28
- Views: 5038
Re: Catholicism and good works
You may check the link on Faith and Works in our FAQs Thank you for this. It is a very good read. To answer my own question then, it seems to be a difference in philosophy of what happens when the HS is within one (by truly having faith). Or in other words "what do we make of someone who appea...