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by RickD
Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:05 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: CBM - The Circularity Bogy Man
Replies: 66
Views: 14048

Re: CBM - The Circularity Bogy Man

Of course, I agree 100%. That is why the bible being it's own authority doesn't work with them and one needs to use other methods to show the bible as authoritive and THAT has always been my point. What other methods are you suggesting, Paul? I only see that God has to touch them in some way for th...
by RickD
Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:56 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: A few new atheist arguments I recently came accross...
Replies: 122
Views: 22856

Re: A few new atheist arguments I recently came accross...

I have no problem with anyone that takes the bible as inerrant and literal and concrete. Paul, I have no problem with taking the bible as inerrant, and literal. I do have a problem with taking the bible in a rigid, concrete way. For example, YECs take the bible in an extremely concrete way when it ...
by RickD
Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:51 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: CBM - The Circularity Bogy Man
Replies: 66
Views: 14048

Re: CBM - The Circularity Bogy Man

Of course, I agree 100%. That is why the bible being it's own authority doesn't work with them and one needs to use other methods to show the bible as authoritive and THAT has always been my point. What other methods are you suggesting, Paul? I only see that God has to touch them in some way for th...
by RickD
Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:48 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: CBM - The Circularity Bogy Man
Replies: 66
Views: 14048

Re: CBM - The Circularity Bogy Man

Discussing scripture with the atheist is an exercise in futility, Paul. They need to believe in order to understand. :amen: And that is why it is so important to be led by the Holy Spirit when witnessing to unbelievers. Only if they are open, will God speak to them through the Bible. If they're not...
by RickD
Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:44 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: A few new atheist arguments I recently came accross...
Replies: 122
Views: 22856

Re: A few new atheist arguments I recently came accross...

I have no problem with anyone that takes the bible as inerrant and literal and concrete. Paul, I have no problem with taking the bible as inerrant, and literal. I do have a problem with taking the bible in a rigid, concrete way. For example, YECs take the bible in an extremely concrete way when it ...
by RickD
Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:42 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: CBM - The Circularity Bogy Man
Replies: 66
Views: 14048

Re: CBM - The Circularity Bogy Man

Danny and Paul, I know both you know this, so I'm not speaking directly to you. The only way we can reach unbelievers is through prayer. God has to be the one to open them up to His message. That is the only way they can begin to understand anything of God. That is the only way any of us came to und...
by RickD
Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:37 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: CBM - The Circularity Bogy Man
Replies: 66
Views: 14048

Re: CBM - The Circularity Bogy Man

Of course, I agree 100%. That is why the bible being it's own authority doesn't work with them and one needs to use other methods to show the bible as authoritive and THAT has always been my point. What other methods are you suggesting, Paul? I only see that God has to touch them in some way for th...
by RickD
Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:33 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: CBM - The Circularity Bogy Man
Replies: 66
Views: 14048

Re: CBM - The Circularity Bogy Man

Discussing scripture with the atheist is an exercise in futility, Paul. They need to believe in order to understand. :amen: And that is why it is so important to be led by the Holy Spirit when witnessing to unbelievers. Only if they are open, will God speak to them through the Bible. If they're not...
by RickD
Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:26 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: A few new atheist arguments I recently came accross...
Replies: 122
Views: 22856

Re: A few new atheist arguments I recently came accross...

I have no problem with anyone that takes the bible as inerrant and literal and concrete. Paul, I have no problem with taking the bible as inerrant, and literal. I do have a problem with taking the bible in a rigid, concrete way. For example, YECs take the bible in an extremely concrete way when it ...
by RickD
Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:10 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: CBM - The Circularity Bogy Man
Replies: 66
Views: 14048

Re: CBM - The Circularity Bogy Man

Do we prove the Bible from the Bible? Absolutely. There is enough evidence for the accuracy of the bible in history, and fulfilled prophesy, that we can make an argument of its truthfulness, if we choose to do so. Are Christians using circular reasoning when they employ an internal defense of Scrip...
by RickD
Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:40 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: CBM - The Circularity Bogy Man
Replies: 66
Views: 14048

Re: CBM - The Circularity Bogy Man

It really upsets me to see Christians railing against the circularity bogy man. I’m not sure if this is a result of being brow-beaten by atheists into believing this nonsense. I feel this is doing a great disservice to apologetics. Now, to those Christians afraid of the CBM, please abandon this lun...
by RickD
Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:31 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: CBM - The Circularity Bogy Man
Replies: 66
Views: 14048

Re: CBM - The Circularity Bogy Man

It really upsets me to see Christians railing against the circularity bogy man. I’m not sure if this is a result of being brow-beaten by atheists into believing this nonsense. I feel this is doing a great disservice to apologetics. Now, to those Christians afraid of the CBM, please abandon this lun...
by RickD
Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:28 am
Forum: Christian Chit-chat
Topic: atheists that believe in illuminati
Replies: 10
Views: 3515

Re: atheists that believe in illuminati

Silvertusk wrote:Hi and welcome to the board.

It will be great to hear your testimony one day about how you converted from Islam to Christianity but as for your question I will leave more learned people to answer it.

God bless

Silvertusk.
I'd also love to hear your testimony as well.
by RickD
Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:24 am
Forum: Christian Chit-chat
Topic: atheists that believe in illuminati
Replies: 10
Views: 3515

Re: atheists that believe in illuminati

doesn't illuminati basically prove that God exists, since they worship satan? and hey guys, I'm new here. :) I haven't been a christian for too long, I just changed from islam. I'm 15 years old, so hello! Yar, i believe in thier existance, after all the name illuminati derives from the word illumin...
by RickD
Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:16 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: A few new atheist arguments I recently came accross...
Replies: 122
Views: 22856

Re: A few new atheist arguments I recently came accross...

As I express before, the bible can't be used to "legitimize" itself.
The consistency of the entire bible, when understood in its proper context, "legitimizes" itself, so to speak. So in that way, it does prove itself to be trustworthy, IMO.