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by PaulSacramento
Thu Apr 14, 2011 12:56 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Ateist volitional will and what Christians can do...
Replies: 10
Views: 1724

Re: Ateist volitional will and what Christians can do...

I think that Paul's passages mean that at times we have to accept and allow people to learn things the "hard way". I am sure that Paul did all he could until he realized that if the person wants to learn the "hard way" then that is how they will learn. One still prays for them and asks Our Lord to f...
by PaulSacramento
Thu Apr 14, 2011 12:52 pm
Forum: The Church
Topic: OT / NT God??
Replies: 16
Views: 8065

Re: OT / NT God??

So, you're saying that both the OT and NT aspects of God's nature are masculine, just viewed differently by the writers? Then what about the infallability of the Holy Spirit's authorship of the Bible and His familiarity with the Godhead? Not sure if we can out a gender on God, LOL ! We are trying t...
by PaulSacramento
Thu Apr 14, 2011 12:49 pm
Forum: End Times
Topic: Preterism Debate / Research
Replies: 26
Views: 6765

Re: Preterism Debate / Research

Agreed Paul! I like how you brought to light certain points, very well done and a pleasure to discuss this topic with you. Do you have other insights you would like to point out? - - - Only that we are, like everyone else, just stating our opinions, nothing more, nothing less and that we ALL give w...
by PaulSacramento
Thu Apr 14, 2011 11:10 am
Forum: The Church
Topic: OT / NT God??
Replies: 16
Views: 8065

Re: OT / NT God??

The bible gives as a pregressive revelation of God's nature, cumulating in God Incarnate, Jesus Christ. Jesus said that know had ever seen or known the Father until HE made Him Known. The OT writers wrote the best that they could in regards to their understanding of God, they didn't always get it ri...
by PaulSacramento
Thu Apr 14, 2011 10:41 am
Forum: End Times
Topic: Preterism Debate / Research
Replies: 26
Views: 6765

Re: Preterism Debate / Research

B.W, we are on the same page.
I was trying to show that a verse or series of verse can be taken in different ways and that, as always and with especially prophecies, one must be uber-cautious or we risk falling into the traps of the likes of the JW's and 1975 and the great disappointment of 1844.
by PaulSacramento
Thu Apr 14, 2011 6:29 am
Forum: General Discussion & Introductions
Topic: How an atheist ruined the world
Replies: 40
Views: 9888

Re: How an atheist ruined the world

The world was on "route" to a war before that, lets not forget that war, in one form or another, had been happening all over Europe and Asia. The assasination of Franz was, perhaps, the icing on the cake, but it was only that because the cake was already there. The seeds for atheisim had already bee...
by PaulSacramento
Wed Apr 13, 2011 1:15 pm
Forum: Resources & Reviews
Topic: My Blog about the fallacy of Atheism
Replies: 9
Views: 3383

Re: My Blog about the fallacy of Atheism

yup you are right about the stubbornness. Although my blog isn't about debates, it is just pointing out to people like me who were once atheists to see that not all that they believe makes sense. Hope it helps somebody, even if it is for reference. Have you read Vox Day's irrational atheist? Tim Ke...
by PaulSacramento
Wed Apr 13, 2011 1:06 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: A few assorted and thought provoking ?s about heaven
Replies: 8
Views: 1493

Re: A few assorted and thought provoking ?s about heaven

When we die our SPIRIT returns to God. It awaits the end of times when our bodies will be reunited with our spirit and ressurected. Since God is an all emcompassing force of love, I don't think that being in his presence will bring out anything but joy and love. Will, accept for those that reject hi...
by PaulSacramento
Wed Apr 13, 2011 12:55 pm
Forum: End Times
Topic: Preterism Debate / Research
Replies: 26
Views: 6765

Re: Preterism Debate / Research

Therefore, the way the Lord, in his wisdom would say a matter concerning fleeing when you see Jerusalem surrounded by enemies can apply to 70-135AD events as well as to the Rapture, as well as to those alive at the time of His physical return. It really does not matter because the Lord promised to ...
by PaulSacramento
Wed Apr 13, 2011 6:31 am
Forum: End Times
Topic: Preterism Debate / Research
Replies: 26
Views: 6765

Re: Preterism Debate / Research

B.W. I see your point and agree. My point is that, while we certainly can take an ancient document and apply it to our times and many times we should do that, we need to realize that IF the document was not written that way that even IF we are doing that, we are going beyond the purpose of the lette...
by PaulSacramento
Tue Apr 12, 2011 1:02 pm
Forum: Creation Talk
Topic: Just another Genesis idea...
Replies: 39
Views: 10078

Re: Just another Genesis idea...

Yowm can mean:
1) day, time, year

a) day (as opposed to night)

b) day (24 hour period)


2) as a division of time

a) a working day, a day's journey

c) days, lifetime (pl.)

d) time, period (general)

e) year

f) temporal references

1) today

2) yesterday

3) tomorrow
by PaulSacramento
Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:18 pm
Forum: End Times
Topic: Preterism Debate / Research
Replies: 26
Views: 6765

Re: Preterism Debate / Research

I don't think it matters what WE think of preterism, it matters if it was viewed as such by those that the Letters and Gospels were originally written for. What did THEY see in them and what did they think? And from what I have read some thought the events happened, some were happening and some saw...
by PaulSacramento
Tue Apr 12, 2011 7:06 am
Forum: Resources & Reviews
Topic: My Blog about the fallacy of Atheism
Replies: 9
Views: 3383

Re: My Blog about the fallacy of Atheism

I have had far too many discussions and debates with atheists, LOL ! I have come to the conclusion that they do not WANT to believe in God, especially the Christian God. Of course when I say "they" I don't mean ALL of them, I mean those that are adamant about the possibility of God not existing. I l...
by PaulSacramento
Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:28 am
Forum: End Times
Topic: Preterism Debate / Research
Replies: 26
Views: 6765

Re: Preterism Debate / Research

I don't think it matters what WE think of preterism, it matters if it was viewed as such by those that the Letters and Gospels were originally written for. What did THEY see in them and what did they think? And from what I have read some thought the events happened, some were happening and some saw ...
by PaulSacramento
Mon Apr 11, 2011 12:06 pm
Forum: End Times
Topic: Preterism Debate / Research
Replies: 26
Views: 6765

Re: Preterism Debate / Research

As with all things written in the bible, OT and NT, we have to regard who wrote them, when and to whom AND how did those that received the information view it. It's great to sit back in the 21st century and say this that and the other thing base don what we know, almost 2000 years later, but the pr...