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by Morny
Thu Aug 10, 2017 8:23 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Global Warming: Massaging the Data per Desired Results?
Replies: 44
Views: 5746

Re: Global Warming: Massaging the Data per Desired Results?

[...] the idea that we can take partial statistics from the last 150 years and apply them accurately to a 4.5 billion year old planet is laughable [...] If climate science actually did what you suggest here, I would agree with your concerns. Are you you sure you drank your Tennessee Honey shots, be...
by Morny
Thu Aug 10, 2017 7:37 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Global Warming: Massaging the Data per Desired Results?
Replies: 44
Views: 5746

Re: Global Warming: Massaging the Data per Desired Results?

yeah, scientists have no idea what they are talking about. Leading, world renowned scientists with degrees and masters in the field across the globe with studies and data that has been deemed irrefutable by the general consensus by the leading minds in the field are pulling ya leg. Priceless sarcas...
by Morny
Sat Jul 15, 2017 1:18 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Evolving from Simple to Complex?
Replies: 161
Views: 21271

Re: Evolving from Simple to Complex?

[... discussion of Venter's "tree vs. bush" concerns ...] I answered/explained what Venter meant in the video - you can believe what you want. Venter maintains that a few very special cases, e.g., one-celled no-nucleus mycoplasmas, do not fit into the nested hierarchy. But ironically, Venter's own ...
by Morny
Sat Jul 15, 2017 1:16 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Evolving from Simple to Complex?
Replies: 161
Views: 21271

Re: Evolving from Simple to Complex?

From past discussions, you've seen "nested hierarchies" as evidence for natural evolution and common descent. Perhaps if you flesh out exactly why this is so. I'm not saying it's not, but neither as you should know if you recall some of our exchanges, do I think it conclusive like you seem to. Almo...
by Morny
Sat Jul 15, 2017 1:13 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Evolving from Simple to Complex?
Replies: 161
Views: 21271

Re: Evolving from Simple to Complex?

abelcainsbrother wrote:I would like to ask you how can you believe people so much when they are using evolution imagination to build these nested hierarchies?
Fortunately, belief is neither involved nor required.

To borrow from "Chronicals of Riddick":
... Belief is not the science-monger way.
by Morny
Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:02 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Evolving from Simple to Complex?
Replies: 161
Views: 21271

Re: Evolving from Simple to Complex?

https://dennisdjones.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/phylo.gif https://dennisdjones.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/phylo.gif Aren't you saying the same thing I am, but only in different words? Hard to say. For example, your earlier comment about "[drawing phenotypical conclusions] which may/may not be cor...
by Morny
Sat Jul 08, 2017 2:07 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Evolving from Simple to Complex?
Replies: 161
Views: 21271

Re: Evolving from Simple to Complex?

[...] nested heirarchies depend upon "species" being clearly defined [...] False. The common descent hypothesis only distinguishes groups according to the production of viable offspring (i.e., the bifurcating descent assumption). The "What is a species?" question is irrelevant here. But if you want...
by Morny
Sat Jul 08, 2017 2:05 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Evolving from Simple to Complex?
Replies: 161
Views: 21271

Re: Evolving from Simple to Complex?

Creatures are often nested together based upon similar phenotypical patterns we observe and conclusions being drawn which may/may not be correct in actuality. According to whom? The nested hierarchy picture I posted is the scientific consensus based on the panoply of objective traits of living orga...
by Morny
Sat Jul 08, 2017 2:04 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Evolving from Simple to Complex?
Replies: 161
Views: 21271

Re: Evolving from Simple to Complex?

I'm a realist - I don't believe blind, unguided processes so stupendously developed by themselves. I never have a problem with that - I'm skeptical of many things that I haven't had time to investigate. (I'm working on the backlog.) The problem only begins with ignoring, or a priori rejecting, the ...
by Morny
Sat Jul 08, 2017 2:03 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Evolving from Simple to Complex?
Replies: 161
Views: 21271

Re: Evolving from Simple to Complex?

But as you are an unbeliever, and as this forum relates to God AND science - I just wonder how this relates, going on about theorized evolutionary scenarios? Not sure what you mean. My "going on" about science's consensus evidence (viz., the one objective nested hierarchy supporting the common desc...
by Morny
Sat Jul 08, 2017 2:02 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Evolving from Simple to Complex?
Replies: 161
Views: 21271

Re: Evolving from Simple to Complex?

thatkidakayounguy wrote:There can still be a designer in all this.
Of course - as I've said many times.
by Morny
Thu Jul 06, 2017 4:05 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Evolving from Simple to Complex?
Replies: 161
Views: 21271

Re: Evolving from Simple to Complex?

Morny, ultimately, what is your point, as it applies to the purpose of this forum? The title contains "science", and the Forum Policy states: "[...] serves to provide a defense and persuasive case for Christianity as well as encouragement and instruction for Christian people and seekers. How can th...
by Morny
Thu Jul 06, 2017 8:16 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Evolving from Simple to Complex?
Replies: 161
Views: 21271

Re: Evolving from Simple to Complex?

[Nested hierarchies] represent rather simplistic patterns humans have observed and tried to organise based upon time, similar traits and evolutionary theory. Biological traits of living organism determine the one objective nested hierarchy. See https://dennisdjones.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/phylo...
by Morny
Thu Jul 06, 2017 8:10 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Evolving from Simple to Complex?
Replies: 161
Views: 21271

Re: Evolving from Simple to Complex?

What I say here will become apparent to anyone who tries applying "nested heirarchies" to dog evolution. Canis lupus (covering dog breeds, wolves, coyotes) is one specie, so the scope of the common descent hypothesis does not apply (because of a violation of the bifurcating descent assumption). "Do...
by Morny
Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:10 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Evolving from Simple to Complex?
Replies: 161
Views: 21271

Re: Evolving from Simple to Complex?

Heh, a basic "toolkit" common to all animals sequenced. y:-? More confirmation for believing that similar "gene code" or "toolkits" were used across many species, particularly if we throw in how such goes against evolution of a simple to complex progression (rather we have the contrary of de-evolut...