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by neo-x
Mon Dec 11, 2017 1:01 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: The Truth Surrounding the Theory of Evolution and its Rationale
Replies: 169
Views: 7309

Re: The Truth Surrounding the Theory of Evolution and its Rationale

Neo: Remember, if molecules to man evolution is true then creating Adam is unnecessary. But it is a different case when it comes to Christ, because there is no other way Christ could be born except a miracle. Seems one huge error Neo makes is that he cherrypicks what he considers a miracle, and wha...
by neo-x
Mon Dec 11, 2017 1:00 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: The Truth Surrounding the Theory of Evolution and its Rationale
Replies: 169
Views: 7309

Re: The Truth Surrounding the Theory of Evolution and its Rationale

Neo wrote: No. Because I don't see it that way you see it. Remember, if molecules to man evolution is true then creating Adam is unnecessary. But it is a different case when it comes to Christ, because there is no other way Christ could be born except a miracle. That seems to be the same argument t...
by neo-x
Sun Dec 10, 2017 8:58 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: The Truth Surrounding the Theory of Evolution and its Rationale
Replies: 169
Views: 7309

Re: The Truth Surrounding the Theory of Evolution and its Rationale

Neo wrote: No. Because I don't see it that way you see it. Remember, if molecules to man evolution is true then creating Adam is unnecessary. But it is a different case when it comes to Christ, because there is no other way Christ could be born except a miracle. That seems to be the same argument t...
by neo-x
Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:49 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: The Truth Surrounding the Theory of Evolution and its Rationale
Replies: 169
Views: 7309

Re: The Truth Surrounding the Theory of Evolution and its Rationale

Rick, may be there are underlying assumptions from both of our points that makes us see things differently. I see what I am saying and carefully weighing it I can clearly see the difference and no internal inconsistency in my view but when you see it from your side with your underlying assumptions, ...
by neo-x
Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:47 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: The Truth Surrounding the Theory of Evolution and its Rationale
Replies: 169
Views: 7309

Re: The Truth Surrounding the Theory of Evolution and its Rationale

If God created Adam that would be a miracle too, right? You said "all humans", and "no exceptions". I'm not sure how you can be consistent if you allow for the miracle of Christ's conception, but won't allow for Adam's miraculous creation. On one hand, you say if God had to step...
by neo-x
Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:25 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: The Truth Surrounding the Theory of Evolution and its Rationale
Replies: 169
Views: 7309

Re: The Truth Surrounding the Theory of Evolution and its Rationale

Christ. I see but we are talking about evolution from molecules to man which doesn't necessitate a miracle. Christ's birth doesn't fall under evolution. I think I have said it before, I think miracles can happen. If God created Adam that would be a miracle too, right? You said "all humans"...
by neo-x
Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:11 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: The Truth Surrounding the Theory of Evolution and its Rationale
Replies: 169
Views: 7309

Re: The Truth Surrounding the Theory of Evolution and its Rationale

Neo, In your last response to me, I have a few questions, but one thing really stood out to me for obvious reasons. Speaking of evolution, you said: No exceptions? No miracles needed or are allowed? Do you see where I'm going with this? I don't. Please share. Christ. I see but we are talking about ...
by neo-x
Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:14 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: The Truth Surrounding the Theory of Evolution and its Rationale
Replies: 169
Views: 7309

Re: The Truth Surrounding the Theory of Evolution and its Rationale

Neo, In your last response to me, I have a few questions, but one thing really stood out to me for obvious reasons. Speaking of evolution, you said: It specifically says that all humans share common ancestry, no exceptions, no miracles needed or are allowed. No exceptions? No miracles needed or are...
by neo-x
Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:09 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: The Truth Surrounding the Theory of Evolution and its Rationale
Replies: 169
Views: 7309

Re: The Truth Surrounding the Theory of Evolution and its Rationale

mir·a·cle ˈmirək(ə)l/Submit noun a surprising and welcome event that is not explicable by natural or scientific laws and is therefore considered to be the work of a divine agency. See the issue with saying that no miracles are needed or never happened is a tricky one. Can someone explain by demonst...
by neo-x
Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:20 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: The Truth Surrounding the Theory of Evolution and its Rationale
Replies: 169
Views: 7309

Re: The Truth Surrounding the Theory of Evolution and its Rationale

mir·a·cle ˈmirək(ə)l/Submit noun a surprising and welcome event that is not explicable by natural or scientific laws and is therefore considered to be the work of a divine agency. See the issue with saying that no miracles are needed or never happened is a tricky one. Can someone explain by demonst...
by neo-x
Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:05 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: The Truth Surrounding the Theory of Evolution and its Rationale
Replies: 169
Views: 7309

Re: The Truth Surrounding the Theory of Evolution and its Rationale

Neo, In your last response to me, I have a few questions, but one thing really stood out to me for obvious reasons. Speaking of evolution, you said: It specifically says that all humans share common ancestry, no exceptions, no miracles needed or are allowed. No exceptions? No miracles needed or are...
by neo-x
Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:47 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: The Truth Surrounding the Theory of Evolution and its Rationale
Replies: 169
Views: 7309

Re: The Truth Surrounding the Theory of Evolution and its Rationale

Also, we need to understand that the classical Theist God didn't just create ALL, but SUSTAINS all so that if evolution is happening, it is happening because of God. Paul, I agree with you but it seems to me that it is maybe a little too vague a statement? For instance, how would you separate the t...
by neo-x
Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:34 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: The Truth Surrounding the Theory of Evolution and its Rationale
Replies: 169
Views: 7309

Re: The Truth Surrounding the Theory of Evolution and its Rationale

Yes. And had it been just that I would concede that there isn't a confirmation or negation of evolution. The thing that I see is an overall connotation to both these accounts (and later on through the Bible that humans are indeed special creation - divinely purposed) that does indeed show God havin...
by neo-x
Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:22 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: The Truth Surrounding the Theory of Evolution and its Rationale
Replies: 169
Views: 7309

Re: The Truth Surrounding the Theory of Evolution and its Rationale

neo wrote: I would say it's difficult to fit with the biblical stories, as evolution simply doesn't allow for special creations, nor purposeful ones. As usual, I don't want to assume what you mean by this, so could you elaborate? Let's assume for sake of discussion, that molecules to man evolution ...
by neo-x
Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:31 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: The Truth Surrounding the Theory of Evolution and its Rationale
Replies: 169
Views: 7309

Re: The Truth Surrounding the Theory of Evolution and its Rationale

Evolution simply is populations changing through time. Evolution actually fits in well with the biblical kinds idea. Btw, I sort of touched on this in another post of mine, about whether Neanderthals should be considered a different species of human or a subspecies of ours, and how this fits with t...

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