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by neo-x
Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:00 am
Forum: General Discussion & Introductions
Topic: What does it mean to be completely human?
Replies: 9
Views: 114

Re: What does it mean to be completely human?

now whose comparing apples with oranges.... The biological process is the same. A seed becomes a tree. A seed becomes human. The question is at what point would you consider the seed to be not a seed anymore. I say when it has grown to a point where it can behave as a tree. And my logic is the same...
by neo-x
Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:53 am
Forum: Politics and World Events
Topic: The souls of aborted fetuses
Replies: 136
Views: 1087

Re: The souls of aborted fetuses

So guys, At what point does a apple seed become an apple tree?
How do you see it, Or do you think that the apple seed is the apple tree?

Please let me know how you define the difference?
by neo-x
Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:48 am
Forum: General Discussion & Introductions
Topic: What does it mean to be completely human?
Replies: 9
Views: 114

Re: What does it mean to be completely human?

At what point does a apple seed become an apple tree?
by neo-x
Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:18 am
Forum: Politics and World Events
Topic: The souls of aborted fetuses
Replies: 136
Views: 1087

Re: The souls of aborted fetuses

Storyteller wrote:Did you read the link neo? A scientific study classes conception as the point when a human becomes a person.

Haven't yet. My cousin passed away just now so on my way there. Will update you when I have read it.
by neo-x
Mon Feb 05, 2018 12:11 am
Forum: Politics and World Events
Topic: The souls of aborted fetuses
Replies: 136
Views: 1087

Re: The souls of aborted fetuses

I'm interested in discussing the logic clearly rather than someone merely supporting or not supporting abortion. Soul was introduced in the original question and has since come up in discussion. The thing is, re: a soul distinction, this metaphysics of sort is actually applied by those who introduc...
by neo-x
Mon Feb 05, 2018 12:06 am
Forum: Politics and World Events
Topic: The souls of aborted fetuses
Replies: 136
Views: 1087

Re: The souls of aborted fetuses

Neo wrote: Rick, you said that it is anti science, so obviously I assumed you must have a source that says so and hence I asked for it. A baby fully formed is of course a complete human being. That is the brain and other main organs are fully formed. Ok. Since science shows that a human brain isn't...
by neo-x
Sun Feb 04, 2018 2:41 pm
Forum: Politics and World Events
Topic: The souls of aborted fetuses
Replies: 136
Views: 1087

Re: The souls of aborted fetuses

@Nessa I was talking about the emotional hyperbole that can be created by using words like "murder" and "Playing God". What does that make the doctors "assassins"? So I just don't buy it. The argument is not about dependency but is a 3-month baby in the womb, a complet...
by neo-x
Sun Feb 04, 2018 2:41 pm
Forum: Politics and World Events
Topic: The souls of aborted fetuses
Replies: 136
Views: 1087

Re: The souls of aborted fetuses

@Nessa I was talking about the emotional hyperbole that can be created by using words like "murder" and "Playing God". What does that make the doctors "assassins"? So I just don't buy it. The argument is not about dependency but is a 3-month baby in the womb, a complet...
by neo-x
Sun Feb 04, 2018 1:03 pm
Forum: Moral and Ethical Affairs
Topic: WAS dropping atom bombs on WWII Japan an immoral act?
Replies: 54
Views: 464

Re: WAS dropping atom bombs on WWII Japan an immoral act?

We better be glad that SOME nation is trying to stop the spread of nukes, seeking treaties of non-proliferation, etc. The history of nations is inherited by the grandchildren of those of WWII era. So, we today SHOULD be trying to keep the nuke peace. And the most powerful thing that keeps it is ass...
by neo-x
Sun Feb 04, 2018 1:01 pm
Forum: Politics and World Events
Topic: The souls of aborted fetuses
Replies: 136
Views: 1087

Re: The souls of aborted fetuses

@Nessa I was talking about the emotional hyperbole that can be created by using words like "murder" and "Playing God". What does that make the doctors "assassins"? So I just don't buy it. The argument is not about dependency but is a 3-month baby in the womb, a complet...
by neo-x
Sun Feb 04, 2018 12:52 pm
Forum: Politics and World Events
Topic: The souls of aborted fetuses
Replies: 136
Views: 1087

Re: The souls of aborted fetuses

@Nessa I was talking about the emotional hyperbole that can be created by using words like "murder" and "Playing God". What does that make the doctors "assassins"? So I just don't buy it. The argument is not about dependency but is a 3-month baby in the womb, a complete...
by neo-x
Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:35 am
Forum: Politics and World Events
Topic: The souls of aborted fetuses
Replies: 136
Views: 1087

Re: The souls of aborted fetuses

Neo wrote: 5. The reason I said it's not murder is that it technically just isn't. If you have a justification to kill/end life if you consider the pros and cons, and I am using the same yardstick here Rick, the one you referred to about the Nuking post. That if you take all factors in, it just see...
by neo-x
Sun Feb 04, 2018 8:16 am
Forum: Politics and World Events
Topic: The souls of aborted fetuses
Replies: 136
Views: 1087

Re: The souls of aborted fetuses

Neo wrote: 5. The reason I said it's not murder is that it technically just isn't. If you have a justification to kill/end life if you consider the pros and cons, and I am using the same yardstick here Rick, the one you referred to about the Nuking post. That if you take all factors in, it just see...
by neo-x
Sun Feb 04, 2018 8:13 am
Forum: Politics and World Events
Topic: The souls of aborted fetuses
Replies: 136
Views: 1087

Re: The souls of aborted fetuses

Well guys. You don't agree. I can see that. My experience is my own, based on where I live and what I have seen and I have given my reasons for it. I think you are not addressing them and the real world implications of what you suggest. It is not black or white. I don't know when does a person gets ...
by neo-x
Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:53 am
Forum: Politics and World Events
Topic: The souls of aborted fetuses
Replies: 136
Views: 1087

Re: The souls of aborted fetuses

As for why? Because it gets to the heart of what I've been wanting to know from you: K. Of course its life. But it's potential at best. Can you take a 3 month baby out of the womb and treat it as a fully functional normal human being? Of course not because even though its life, it is not completely...

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