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by PaulSacramento
Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:31 pm
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: There is no Hope without Jesus
Replies: 235
Views: 2620

Re: There is no Hope without Jesus

And if we don't choose what to believe in based on the available evidence, how does one decide on anything ??

I really don't think that deniers of free will and choice take their conclusions to their natural and inevitable end and that is why they get surprised by things like communism for example.
by PaulSacramento
Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:44 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: There is no Hope without Jesus
Replies: 235
Views: 2620

Re: There is no Hope without Jesus

I mean, here is the definition: be·lief bəˈlēf/Submit noun 1. an acceptance that a statement is true or that something exists. "his belief in the value of hard work" 2. trust, faith, or confidence in someone or something. To say that one doesn't choose what they believe in means that they ...
by PaulSacramento
Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:36 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: There is no Hope without Jesus
Replies: 235
Views: 2620

Re: There is no Hope without Jesus

Oh crap, I had forgotten that painful thread.

It's threads like that one that make me thinking that everyone should have to take a philosophy 101 course and understand basic arguments of what belief actually is and not what they think or want it to be.
by PaulSacramento
Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:51 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: There is no Hope without Jesus
Replies: 235
Views: 2620

Re: There is no Hope without Jesus

Ken,m if you don't have any choice in what you believe , how can your view be considered reasonable and rational? Belief happens after reason and logic demands it. I mean, you are't rationalizing things and then choosing to believe the evidence and facts, at least not according to what you are sayi...
by PaulSacramento
Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:20 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: There is no Hope without Jesus
Replies: 235
Views: 2620

Re: There is no Hope without Jesus

Ken,m if you don't have any choice in what you believe , how can your view be considered reasonable and rational? Belief happens after reason and logic demands it. I mean, you are't rationalizing things and then choosing to believe the evidence and facts, at least not according to what you are sayi...
by PaulSacramento
Tue Feb 20, 2018 12:26 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: John H. Walton said what about concordism?
Replies: 7
Views: 104

Re: John H. Walton said what about concordism?

IMO, the whole point of understanding that the various books and letters and stories and poems of the bible were written FOR us BUT NOT TO us is to understand the culture context of the writings. It isn't that the HS didn't know that we would be reading these texts 2-3000 years after, it is that the...
by PaulSacramento
Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:16 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: There is no Hope without Jesus
Replies: 235
Views: 2620

Re: There is no Hope without Jesus

Ken,m if you don't have any choice in what you believe , how can your view be considered reasonable and rational? I mean, you are't rationalizing things and then choosing to believe the evidence and facts, at least not according to what you are saying. You are saying you have no choice in what you b...
by PaulSacramento
Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:13 am
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: The Resurrection Events Analyzed by Scholars
Replies: 6
Views: 165

Re: The Resurrection Events Analyzed by Scholars

All 3 volumes are so good, I recommend them all.
by PaulSacramento
Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:48 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: There is no Hope without Jesus
Replies: 235
Views: 2620

Re: There is no Hope without Jesus

I don’t think you could choose what to believe any more than you could choose to believe something is beautiful or not, or that something taste good or not. If you choose what you believe, could you choose to believe you can fly like a bird? Can you choose to believe something is true even though y...
by PaulSacramento
Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:47 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: There is no Hope without Jesus
Replies: 235
Views: 2620

Re: There is no Hope without Jesus

Kenny wrote:
PaulSacramento wrote:If a person has no choice in what they believe then how can what they believe be based on rational thought?

Rational thought is usually what determines what we believe.

Ken

Not if you have NO CHOICE in what you believe.
by PaulSacramento
Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:36 am
Forum: General Discussion & Introductions
Topic: Was Jesus Tortured in hell for 3 days and 3 Nights?
Replies: 16
Views: 250

Re: Was Jesus Tortured in hell for 3 days and 3 Nights?

You really think that Satan can physically and/or mentally harm God ??
by PaulSacramento
Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:49 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: There is no Hope without Jesus
Replies: 235
Views: 2620

Re: There is no Hope without Jesus

If a person has no choice in what they believe then how can what they believe be based on rational thought? I really don;t think that people that don't believe in free will or choice truly understand the mess of a position they are in. EX: if you don't believe in free will you don't believe that peo...
by PaulSacramento
Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:58 am
Forum: General Discussion & Introductions
Topic: Was Jesus Tortured in hell for 3 days and 3 Nights?
Replies: 16
Views: 250

Re: Was Jesus Tortured in hell for 3 days and 3 Nights?

We also need to remember that when Jesus was in the flesh only, before the resurrection, He had emptied Himself of His Omnipotence. That was NOT the case after the resurrection.
How does one torture God?
by PaulSacramento
Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:21 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: There is no Hope without Jesus
Replies: 235
Views: 2620

Re: There is no Hope without Jesus

I wouldn't say people choose what they accept to be true, to reject something that makes sense to you because it goes against what you want to be true is a form of lying. It would be honest to change your agenda rather than to reject what make sense to you. Are you saying that people don't choose t...

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