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by Byblos
Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:35 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Skepticism and the Principle of Sufficient Reason
Replies: 77
Views: 475

Re: Skepticism and the Principle of Sufficient Reason

Your attempts at diversion are truly pathetic as you have not addressed a single point I raised. But let’s see what happens without any of the polemics. So is it Aristotle's logic that all objects falling to earth, merely YEARN to be a part of the Earth correct? Or, is it that objects slow down once...
by Byblos
Tue Nov 07, 2017 11:50 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Skepticism and the Principle of Sufficient Reason
Replies: 77
Views: 475

Re: Skepticism and the Principle of Sufficient Reason

AND for the LAST time, Aquinas does NOT and has NEVER said that EVERYTHING has a cause OR that EVERYTHING "moves". Where on my thread do I state that Aquinas said that EVERYTHING HAS A CAUSE or that EVERYTHING MOVES? Spare me the straw man. But for your information EVERYTHING IS IN MOTION...
by Byblos
Tue Nov 07, 2017 9:12 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Skepticism and the Principle of Sufficient Reason
Replies: 77
Views: 475

Re: Skepticism and the Principle of Sufficient Reason

AND for the LAST time, Aquinas does NOT and has NEVER said that EVERYTHING has a cause OR that EVERYTHING "moves". Yeah but TE insists that's what the argument ought to be :shakehead: . Evidently that's the mark of the truly enlightened, build a straw man argument and attack that while co...
by Byblos
Tue Nov 07, 2017 8:32 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Skepticism and the Principle of Sufficient Reason
Replies: 77
Views: 475

Re: Skepticism and the Principle of Sufficient Reason

Topic 0: I don't mean to be dismissive but I really have no clue where you're going with topics 1 thru whatever, except extreme skepticism, that is. So unless you want to admit extreme skepticism right now and save us all a boat load of time and effort, I suggest we follow a different track, one in...
by Byblos
Tue Nov 07, 2017 7:32 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Amazing Scientific Evidences Why God MUST Exist
Replies: 119
Views: 1270

Re: Amazing Scientific Evidences Why God MUST Exist

You seem generally right Byblos, but also I think nonetheless Shapiro generally does quite well on the spot. Shapiro starts off your side of the track with "actual" and "potential", the statement he makes in the beginning is that only thing that has the power to act upon the pot...
by Byblos
Mon Nov 06, 2017 10:12 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Skepticism and the Principle of Sufficient Reason
Replies: 77
Views: 475

Re: Skepticism and the Principle of Sufficient Reason

B. W. wrote:
Byblos wrote:Topic 0: I don't mean to be dismissive but I really have no clue where you're going with topics....


This comment is for Byblos only:

Can skeptics really know where they are going?
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:pound: :pound: :pound:
by Byblos
Mon Nov 06, 2017 10:04 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Skepticism and the Principle of Sufficient Reason
Replies: 77
Views: 475

Re: Skepticism and the Principle of Sufficient Reason

Topic 0: I don't mean to be dismissive but I really have no clue where you're going with topics 1 thru whatever, except extreme skepticism, that is. So unless you want to admit extreme skepticism right now and save us all a boat load of time and effort, I suggest we follow a different track, one in ...
by Byblos
Mon Nov 06, 2017 7:45 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Amazing Scientific Evidences Why God MUST Exist
Replies: 119
Views: 1270

Re: List of Amazing Scientific Evidences Why God MUST Exist

Shapiro, talks of Atristoles/Aquinas' reasoning, principal of sufficient reason et al in what I think is a very clear and articulate manner (typical of Shapiro). Highly recommend. JlIgSwnKVB0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlIgSwnKVB0 The reason I don't like this (video) at all is that here's some...
by Byblos
Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:56 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Amazing Scientific Evidences Why God MUST Exist
Replies: 119
Views: 1270

Re: List of Amazing Scientific Evidences Why God MUST Exist

I stated that I would only stay on my thread, but I did make a mistake here. I said that, "everything must always be contingent upon everything else". I meant to say that, "everything must always be contingent on SOMETHING else". The words are my own, and are based on my interpr...
by Byblos
Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:40 am
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Morality
Replies: 133
Views: 1291

Re: Morality

It depends on who you ask. If you ask the cow, the human murdered is a non-issue, but the beef suppliers harvesting cattle for McDonalds is genocide. If you ask the human, the human murdered is an atrocity, but the beef suppliers harvesting cattle for McDonalds is dinner. Ken So, a purely materiali...
by Byblos
Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:35 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Amazing Scientific Evidences Why God MUST Exist
Replies: 119
Views: 1270

Re: List of Amazing Scientific Evidences Why God MUST Exist

I hope that I have helped in your understanding of this principle. No, you have not helped at all. In fact, you've proven that you entirely misunderstand the proof(s) and are arguing against a straw man. I will briefly comment hereunder but will leave the bulk of the argument to the new thread. It ...
by Byblos
Thu Nov 02, 2017 10:36 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Amazing Scientific Evidences Why God MUST Exist
Replies: 119
Views: 1270

Re: List of Amazing Scientific Evidences Why God MUST Exist

I am working on a name for a new thread, that involves a healthy skepticism. Any ideas? Don I've recently started reading a new book by Ed Feser titled 'Five Proofs of the Existence of God'. The traditional ones being proofs from motion, contingency, universals, essence and existence, and the last ...
by Byblos
Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:29 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Amazing Scientific Evidences Why God MUST Exist
Replies: 119
Views: 1270

Re: List of Amazing Scientific Evidences Why God MUST Exist

I am a sceptic. I am sceptical of all truth claims that lack logical or physical support. Glad you're back Don and very glad to hear you hold such high value for logic and reason. They are obviously essential to understanding the metaphysical claims we are making whose conclusions are logically ine...
by Byblos
Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:06 am
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Morality
Replies: 133
Views: 1291

Re: Morality

And I thought atheists accused Christians of inventing God. Kenny conveniently invented some false, illogical god, just to discredit this impossible god. That is exactly why I stopped conversing with him. But to be fair, at least he's been consistent with his illogical position. Never did he or wil...
by Byblos
Fri Oct 20, 2017 9:38 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Amazing Scientific Evidences Why God MUST Exist
Replies: 119
Views: 1270

Re: List of Amazing Scientific Evidences Why God MUST Exist

...limited to the metaphysical or the make-believe... To equate metaphysics with make-believe (may or may not be your intention but that's how I read it) is to equate cosmology with astrology. FYI, philosophy in general (and metaphysics in particular) is the bedrock of logic and reason, without whi...

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