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by Sudsy
Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:32 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Infinite punishment for finite sins
Replies: 427
Views: 107394

Re: Infinite punishment for finite sins

...When statements are made such as 'To deny the exercise of dominion even to the dam’d would prove God unable to be true to His own standards of being true to himself in all things spoken – promised…' as if this punches a hole in the 'A' view is nonsense. God can exercise dominion as He chooses to...
by Sudsy
Tue Nov 02, 2010 6:57 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Infinite punishment for finite sins
Replies: 427
Views: 107394

Re: Infinite punishment for finite sins

I'm looking forward to the day when every trace of evil is removed from existence and God is trully all in all. And we may all be surprised at how gracious God will be to many that we currently might be writing off. And as Billy Graham said he expects this to include people from various religions o...
by Sudsy
Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:48 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Infinite punishment for finite sins
Replies: 427
Views: 107394

Re: Infinite punishment for finite sins

Why Annihilationist think that murdering the less fortunate (from their perspective) is ok is beyond me, it’s disturbing. Using their reasoning, all who suffer on earth (from the perspective of those who are more fortunate) should be put out of their miseries. Now that is one of the most outrageous...
by Sudsy
Mon Nov 01, 2010 5:25 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Infinite punishment for finite sins
Replies: 427
Views: 107394

Re: Infinite punishment for finite sins

A quick question for all of you...can something that is eternal have a specific starting point in time? Or are there different concepts of eternal, for example: God being outside of time is eternal, because time simply has no influence on His state of existence, whereas with creation (including hum...
by Sudsy
Mon Nov 01, 2010 4:05 pm
Forum: End Times
Topic: Is God going to destroy the universe?
Replies: 11
Views: 6382

Re: Is God going to destroy the universe?

I found this article interesting. I didn't know the Mormons think it will be centered around Independence Missouri. y#-o
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Jerusalem
by Sudsy
Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:08 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Infinite punishment for finite sins
Replies: 427
Views: 107394

Re: Infinite punishment for finite sins

A quick question for all of you...can something that is eternal have a specific starting point in time? Or are there different concepts of eternal, for example: God being outside of time is eternal, because time simply has no influence on His state of existence, whereas with creation (including hum...
by Sudsy
Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:00 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Infinite punishment for finite sins
Replies: 427
Views: 107394

Re: Infinite punishment for finite sins

So taking the reasoning that if something is good or appealing to a man then it is contrary to God using the Peter example. Therefore man has no concept whatsoever on what is good or right or wrong. Peter did not understand the bigger picture on this subject and so Jesus corrected him. But now Jesus...
by Sudsy
Mon Nov 01, 2010 1:24 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Infinite punishment for finite sins
Replies: 427
Views: 107394

Re: Infinite punishment for finite sins

You obviously can't accept the fact that I do get the difference and I still disagree with you. But that, regardless, is NOT what I'm arguing. What I am arguing is the fact that you obviously still don't see how hypocritical a position it is to demand something of hell believers you do not demand o...
by Sudsy
Mon Nov 01, 2010 11:01 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Infinite punishment for finite sins
Replies: 427
Views: 107394

Re: Infinite punishment for finite sins

Eternal nothingness and having my free will subverted terrifies me several degrees of magnitude more than a conscious decision I make. Really ? So, you would gladly accept eternal torment in a lake of fire if it meant surrendering your free will to exist forever by being destroyed. Hmmmm, remarkabl...
by Sudsy
Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:05 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: The Bible is not "The Word of God"
Replies: 35
Views: 6226

Re: The Bible is not "The Word of God"

We cannot be saved without Christ, but can we know of Christ, and know Christ without 1. and 2.? I would say, yes. God is not limited to any means of revealing Himself. For instance, some Muslims have come to know Christ through a vision. I believe His preferred way is through preaching the good ne...
by Sudsy
Mon Nov 01, 2010 7:51 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Infinite punishment for finite sins
Replies: 427
Views: 107394

Re: Infinite punishment for finite sins

Eternal nothingness and having my free will subverted terrifies me several degrees of magnitude more than a conscious decision I make. Really ? So, you would gladly accept eternal torment in a lake of fire if it meant surrendering your free will to exist forever by being destroyed. Hmmmm, remarkabl...
by Sudsy
Mon Nov 01, 2010 6:46 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: The Bible is not "The Word of God"
Replies: 35
Views: 6226

Re: The Bible is not "The Word of God"

Thanks Bart. I think I now understand what you mean by looking at things through the 'lens of Christ'. Is it fair to say that our understandings of God can be revealed to us by the Holy Spirit through what the scriptures say about who Christ was and what He said but also in other ways, God reveals H...
by Sudsy
Sun Oct 31, 2010 6:44 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Infinite punishment for finite sins
Replies: 427
Views: 107394

Re: Infinite punishment for finite sins

I simply find yours extremely hypocritical to be incredulous towards us for not crawling on our hands and knees in an effort to save our neighbors from eternal torment in hell, yet you shy away from doing the very same for your neighbor in an effort to save him from certain annihilation of his free...
by Sudsy
Sun Oct 31, 2010 3:15 pm
Forum: End Times
Topic: Is God going to destroy the universe?
Replies: 11
Views: 6382

Re: Is God going to destroy the universe?

Likewise in Revelation 3:12, 21:2 and 21:10-22:5 the New (kainos) Jerusalem is not the earthly city restored. It is the place that Jesus went away to prepare for us. It is a second city. Hey dayage, any thoughts on where this New Jerusalem will be located ? I think scripture describes it like a cub...
by Sudsy
Sun Oct 31, 2010 2:31 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Infinite punishment for finite sins
Replies: 427
Views: 107394

Re: Infinite punishment for finite sins

That is what drips from every post you make on the subject and frankly it is just a little ridiculous.
More disrespect of another's view - I guess respectful dialogue is not something desired here. y:-/ But you are entitled to your opinions and so am I. ;)