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by Philip
Tue Oct 17, 2017 7:56 pm
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Are You Are Skeptic or In Denial?
Replies: 180
Views: 1313

Re: Are You Are Skeptic or In Denial?

Ken: "There is no scientific theory that claims a time in history when absolutely nothing physically existed." Ken, you don't even seem to know what constitutes as being the physical, nor what science's overwhelming consensus is about when the physical began to exist. As before the big ba...
by Philip
Tue Oct 17, 2017 7:09 pm
Forum: Prayer Requests
Topic: My Dad
Replies: 1
Views: 10

Re: My Dad

Annette, so sorry to hear this. We've really missed you around here! You had previously explained the coldness you've been shown, so devastating. Certainly we'll lift you up! I hope other things and your health have been better.

Philip
by Philip
Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:19 pm
Forum: Friendly Chit-Chat
Topic: Anyone here like to surf?
Replies: 14
Views: 62

Re: Anyone here like to surf?

Around here, usually someone uses the term "dude" whenever they're irritated or being dismissive of someone.
by Philip
Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:11 pm
Forum: Creation Talk
Topic: Despite objections,why the Gap Theory is true.
Replies: 51
Views: 1633

Re: Despite objections,why the Gap Theory is true.

Here, MIchael Heiser walks us through the Hebrew grammar issues for several theories, including GAP. http://www.michaelsheiser.com/Genesis%201%20and%20creation.pdf You simply cannot get around the issue of the correct ancient Hebrew grammar and how its clauses either stand alone or are dependent, a...
by Philip
Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:04 pm
Forum: Creation Talk
Topic: Despite objections,why the Gap Theory is true.
Replies: 51
Views: 1633

Re: Despite objections,why the Gap Theory is true.

ACB: Thanks for the advice and I understand that some of what I explained does not make sense and does not make sense scientifically.But if God did flood the heavens like this interpretation says this would be why there is no light in Genesis 1:2.I cannot know how it truthfully happened but God did...
by Philip
Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:28 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: List of Amazing Scientific Evidences Why God MUST Exist
Replies: 6
Views: 128

Re: List of Amazing Scientific Evidences Why God MUST Exist

TrulyE: all your examples of "fine tuning", "probability", "design", "complexity/intelligence" arguments, have been thoroughly debunked. You mean the fine-tuning doesn't exist???!!! Please explain how they don't exist. The first three minutes of the physical ...
by Philip
Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:00 am
Forum: Friendly Chit-Chat
Topic: Anyone here like to surf?
Replies: 14
Views: 62

Re: Anyone here like to surf?

Yeah, Rick - what could happen?

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by Philip
Tue Oct 17, 2017 6:44 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Are You Are Skeptic or In Denial?
Replies: 180
Views: 1313

Re: Are You Are Skeptic or In Denial?

Ken: Are you speculating intelligence, and purpose was involved, because intelligence and purpose was the end result? Of course! And because we have absolutely no evidence of intelligent, complex things and designs creating themselves, or suddenly appearing, within an intelligent cause and designer...
by Philip
Tue Oct 17, 2017 6:10 am
Forum: Creation Talk
Topic: Despite objections,why the Gap Theory is true.
Replies: 51
Views: 1633

Re: Despite objections,why the Gap Theory is true.

Rick: You constantly talk about how evolution would be defeated if only Christians would debate Evolutionists from a Gap Theory point of view. When you say things, especially like the part I underlined in your paragraph above, your Gap Theory becomes a laughing stock, not only with the atheists you...
by Philip
Mon Oct 16, 2017 1:36 pm
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Are You Are Skeptic or In Denial?
Replies: 180
Views: 1313

Re: Are You Are Skeptic or In Denial?

Ken: So… are you agreeing with me the possibility of multiple first/eternal causes? Of course not, but I am saying that there HAD to be something eternal with those attributes - some great Intelligence with a purpose in what was created, and great power and ability, per what was created. Ken: Intel...
by Philip
Mon Oct 16, 2017 1:28 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: List of Amazing Scientific Evidences Why God MUST Exist
Replies: 6
Views: 128

Re: List of Amazing Scientific Evidences Why God MUST Exist

TrulyE: How does this in anyway suggest that a God did it? It doesn't matter how you load your default argument with conditions and limitations, you still must DISPROVE all materialistic possible explanations. Anyone can set conditions, make truth claims, or argue from ignorance. But that doesn't m...
by Philip
Mon Oct 16, 2017 11:31 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: What things, already in Heaven, needed to be reconciled?
Replies: 5
Views: 45

Re: What things, already in Heaven, needed to be reconciled?

Let's forget the angels, for a moment. Remember, God is an ETERNAL, creative being. He's been eternally creating things in whatever realm - whether intelligent beings or whatever else. Scripture addresses mankind and our time, our physical universe. But the God who is both eternal and eternally crea...
by Philip
Mon Oct 16, 2017 11:17 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Are You Are Skeptic or In Denial?
Replies: 180
Views: 1313

Re: Are You Are Skeptic or In Denial?

Paul: With multiple first causes... With MULTIPLE first causes, A) They ALL must pre-exist all physical things (as the universe had a physical beginning), and B) they ALL would have to be eternal AND thus eternally causing things - meaning they would actually ALL be SIMULTANEOUS causes that precede...
by Philip
Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:14 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Are You Are Skeptic or In Denial?
Replies: 180
Views: 1313

Re: Are You Are Skeptic or In Denial?

ACB: This is why I no longer present evidence to atheists to try to convince them God exists and instead I tell them if you want proof God is real then get saved by Jesus... You should rethink that a bit. Because there ARE some atheists and agnostics who are willing to change their minds, presented...
by Philip
Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:50 pm
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Are You Are Skeptic or In Denial?
Replies: 180
Views: 1313

Re: Are You Are Skeptic or In Denial?

K: If one doesn't see the first line of evidences such the orderly world as requiring some super intelligence, then chances are nothing else presented will change their minds. Absolutely! Because the only alternative is that some blind, random, non-God, non-intelligent, eternal cause or causes crea...

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