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by Philip
Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:28 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: List of Amazing Scientific Evidences Why God MUST Exist
Replies: 6
Views: 121

Re: List of Amazing Scientific Evidences Why God MUST Exist

TrulyE: all your examples of "fine tuning", "probability", "design", "complexity/intelligence" arguments, have been thoroughly debunked. You mean the fine-tuning doesn't exist???!!! Please explain how they don't exist. The first three minutes of the physical ...
by Philip
Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:00 am
Forum: Friendly Chit-Chat
Topic: Anyone here like to surf?
Replies: 10
Views: 47

Re: Anyone here like to surf?

Yeah, Rick - what could happen?

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by Philip
Tue Oct 17, 2017 6:44 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Are You Are Skeptic or In Denial?
Replies: 177
Views: 1288

Re: Are You Are Skeptic or In Denial?

Ken: Are you speculating intelligence, and purpose was involved, because intelligence and purpose was the end result? Of course! And because we have absolutely no evidence of intelligent, complex things and designs creating themselves, or suddenly appearing, within an intelligent cause and designer...
by Philip
Tue Oct 17, 2017 6:10 am
Forum: Creation Talk
Topic: Despite objections,why the Gap Theory is true.
Replies: 49
Views: 1629

Re: Despite objections,why the Gap Theory is true.

Rick: You constantly talk about how evolution would be defeated if only Christians would debate Evolutionists from a Gap Theory point of view. When you say things, especially like the part I underlined in your paragraph above, your Gap Theory becomes a laughing stock, not only with the atheists you...
by Philip
Mon Oct 16, 2017 1:36 pm
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Are You Are Skeptic or In Denial?
Replies: 177
Views: 1288

Re: Are You Are Skeptic or In Denial?

Ken: So… are you agreeing with me the possibility of multiple first/eternal causes? Of course not, but I am saying that there HAD to be something eternal with those attributes - some great Intelligence with a purpose in what was created, and great power and ability, per what was created. Ken: Intel...
by Philip
Mon Oct 16, 2017 1:28 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: List of Amazing Scientific Evidences Why God MUST Exist
Replies: 6
Views: 121

Re: List of Amazing Scientific Evidences Why God MUST Exist

TrulyE: How does this in anyway suggest that a God did it? It doesn't matter how you load your default argument with conditions and limitations, you still must DISPROVE all materialistic possible explanations. Anyone can set conditions, make truth claims, or argue from ignorance. But that doesn't m...
by Philip
Mon Oct 16, 2017 11:31 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: What things, already in Heaven, needed to be reconciled?
Replies: 4
Views: 34

Re: What things, already in Heaven, needed to be reconciled?

Let's forget the angels, for a moment. Remember, God is an ETERNAL, creative being. He's been eternally creating things in whatever realm - whether intelligent beings or whatever else. Scripture addresses mankind and our time, our physical universe. But the God who is both eternal and eternally crea...
by Philip
Mon Oct 16, 2017 11:17 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Are You Are Skeptic or In Denial?
Replies: 177
Views: 1288

Re: Are You Are Skeptic or In Denial?

Paul: With multiple first causes... With MULTIPLE first causes, A) They ALL must pre-exist all physical things (as the universe had a physical beginning), and B) they ALL would have to be eternal AND thus eternally causing things - meaning they would actually ALL be SIMULTANEOUS causes that precede...
by Philip
Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:14 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Are You Are Skeptic or In Denial?
Replies: 177
Views: 1288

Re: Are You Are Skeptic or In Denial?

ACB: This is why I no longer present evidence to atheists to try to convince them God exists and instead I tell them if you want proof God is real then get saved by Jesus... You should rethink that a bit. Because there ARE some atheists and agnostics who are willing to change their minds, presented...
by Philip
Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:50 pm
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Are You Are Skeptic or In Denial?
Replies: 177
Views: 1288

Re: Are You Are Skeptic or In Denial?

K: If one doesn't see the first line of evidences such the orderly world as requiring some super intelligence, then chances are nothing else presented will change their minds. Absolutely! Because the only alternative is that some blind, random, non-God, non-intelligent, eternal cause or causes crea...
by Philip
Sun Oct 15, 2017 6:16 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Can Christians go to bars/pubs?
Replies: 16
Views: 437

Re: Can Christians go to bars/pubs?

ACB: Give me a Dr Pepper instead.


DR. PEPPER???!!! Now THAT stuff will rot your gut! (Not to mention, it tastes horrible!)
by Philip
Sun Oct 15, 2017 11:35 am
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: The Book of Job: Was Job Real? And if so, why would God allow Satan to test Job?
Replies: 4
Views: 33

Re: The Book of Job: Was Job Real? And if so, why would God allow Satan to test Job?

2nd Question: Why would God allow Job to be tested? Yes, we can say that this "bet" of sorts was allowed, but there is one problem. God allowed Satan to kill Job's children and his slaves. Remember, God is far more concerned about the END/eternal results of people's lives. So the answers ...
by Philip
Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:41 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Can Christians go to bars/pubs?
Replies: 16
Views: 437

Re: Can Christians go to bars/pubs?

I have it under control now with 1-4 drinks per night 5 days per week instead 6 or more like before. I'd say if you are drinking more that 2 drinks per night, that is NOT under control. I rarely drink - and almost only beer, when I do - and my rule is I NEVER drink more than two beers, and then onl...
by Philip
Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:01 am
Forum: Aberrant Christianity
Topic: Accepted Jesus, But Doesn't Believe He's God
Replies: 62
Views: 3840

Re: Accepted Jesus, But Doesn't Believe He's God

K: Given Christ exists and is living, He knows who He is, such that we merely know of Him and trust. We don't need to know absolutely everything about Christ in order to accept Him as a person or our Lord; we can merely recognize such implicitly without having all details. No, we don't need to know...
by Philip
Sat Oct 14, 2017 12:13 pm
Forum: Politics and World Events
Topic: Gay coffee shop owner kicks Christians out of cafe
Replies: 44
Views: 287

Re: Gay coffee shop owner kicks Christians out of cafe

Melanie: I’m as much a leftist Rick as you are chauvinist :pillows:


Wow, Mel, you can't be THAT far left! :lol:

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