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by Dale Tooley
Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:19 am
Forum: The Church
Topic: Holy Spirit Baptism and Tongues
Replies: 81
Views: 46315

Holy Spirit Baptism and tongues

Sorry Puritan lad, I have only just noticed that Thomas Watson is not your name. I certainly cannot agree with the Preterist view that the last days ended in AD 70. But neither can I agree with the generally held futurist view that somehow the 20th century- but now, surprisingly- the 21st century ar...
by Dale Tooley
Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:02 am
Forum: The Church
Topic: Holy Spirit Baptism and Tongues
Replies: 81
Views: 46315

Holy Spirit Baptism and tongues

Thomas Watson asks: I am just not clear on the role of the "prophet" in charismatic churches. If prophecy today "should never be used for guidance and should only be a confirmation of what has already been settled in the heart by the Holy Spirit", then why prophesy to begin with? Well Thomas , One m...
by Dale Tooley
Tue Nov 08, 2005 7:23 am
Forum: End Times
Topic: Who is the woman in Revelation 12?
Replies: 9
Views: 3531

Who is the woman in Revelation 12

How does a sharp sword go out of His mouth to smite the nations? John 12:47-48 records these words of Jesus: And if anyone hears My sayings, and does not keep them, I do not judge him; for I did not come to judge the world but to save the world. He who rejects Me and does not receive My sayings, has...
by Dale Tooley
Mon Nov 07, 2005 4:12 pm
Forum: The Church
Topic: Holy Spirit Baptism and Tongues
Replies: 81
Views: 46315

speaking in tongues

Just one group? Surely that wont do Tom. How about just a few for the last part of the 19th century. How about these : 1851 : Dorothea Trudel healed several colleagues of hers in Mannedorf, Switzerland, by way of prayer and anointment with oil. She went on to found several faith-healing centers ('fa...
by Dale Tooley
Mon Nov 07, 2005 12:15 pm
Forum: The Church
Topic: Holy Spirit Baptism and Tongues
Replies: 81
Views: 46315

Speaking in tongues

Thomas Watson's little effort to deny the gift of tongues and of prophecy has the speed wobbles! Steady up Tom! Your effort shows more than a little desperation. 2000 years without these gifts? Get away. Those gifts have been manifested with all sorts of groups who were experiencing revival. There w...
by Dale Tooley
Fri May 13, 2005 9:34 am
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Charismatic chaos?
Replies: 35
Views: 13745

Charismatic Chaos?

A response to Kurieuo. For Len lindstrom to be in the Philippines in June would be a very long shot. Lately Len (apart from Canada crusades) has been concentrating on India and Africa and particularly Liberia, travelling city to city trying to help restore a destroyed nation. He is being made "Canad...
by Dale Tooley
Thu May 12, 2005 7:58 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Charismatic chaos?
Replies: 35
Views: 13745

Charismatic Chaos?

Hey Kurieuo, You should make yourself known to Len. I have shared some of our discussion with him already though as he moves around so much I'm not sure if he has seen it. His website is http://www.lenlindstrom.com Neither I or Len would want to be too closely associated with Benny Hinn but most (no...
by Dale Tooley
Thu May 12, 2005 2:40 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Charismatic chaos?
Replies: 35
Views: 13745

Charismatic chaos?

Earl Moon? No! Is he a Mooney ????

Obviously not a big star.
by Dale Tooley
Thu May 12, 2005 11:34 am
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Charismatic chaos?
Replies: 35
Views: 13745

Charismatic Chaos

Bizzt you are right, Len is an anointed man
and here's another miracle pole to pole (almost) .
God arranged for me to meet him in Alberta even before his call to the nations with mass miracle ministry. We have been buddies ever since and worked on a number of projects.
by Dale Tooley
Thu May 12, 2005 12:57 am
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Charismatic chaos?
Replies: 35
Views: 13745

Charismatic chaos?

Kurieuo, It would seem you have had contact with Pentecostals and Charismatics and with your reformed contacts perhaps you are like me Amillennial in prophecy? See http://www.hastenthelight.org.nz Perhaps you need to go with a healing evangelist to a mission field where the minds are not taken over ...
by Dale Tooley
Wed May 11, 2005 8:41 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Charismatic chaos?
Replies: 35
Views: 13745

Charismatic chaos?

Before you can call something counterfeit you have to admit the real is somewhere, else why copy it? It simply will not do to put the genuine into the past or future. That's a cop out and one that even Jesus faced in His days on earth. I admit , what happens in Pentecostal circles generally ( what w...
by Dale Tooley
Wed May 11, 2005 4:22 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Charismatic chaos?
Replies: 35
Views: 13745

J316 probably knows and certainly should know we are discussing the most contentious evangelical issue . So lets not 'pussyfoot' the issue and let it all hang out. I am quite prepared to share with readers a very accusing put- down and my response. After the heat, perhaps a little light will come. C...
by Dale Tooley
Tue May 10, 2005 11:10 am
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Charismatic chaos?
Replies: 35
Views: 13745

Charismatic chaos?

I appreciate what J316 said and understood him perfectly. When God baptised me with the Holy Spirit I was sitting alone in the back seat of my car, in the garage, where i had gone to pray. Waves of anointing poured through my body giving me an urgent desire to praise God at the top of my voice. My t...
by Dale Tooley
Tue May 03, 2005 1:36 am
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Charismatic chaos?
Replies: 35
Views: 13745

The items you mention are really "on the edge". I don't question Holy laughter given some of the wonderful anointings of the Holy spirit I have experienced and seen in others and doubtless the joy of the Lord experienced in this way could be attractive to an unbeliever but I think we should let that...
by Dale Tooley
Mon May 02, 2005 9:01 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Charismatic chaos?
Replies: 35
Views: 13745

The Edge asks: How does an "outsider" like myself discern the difference & not expect an interpretation?....as it seems to me that the tongues being used in worship setting during prayer is no different from that being used in my cell group setting. In my experience the difference is usually obvious...