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by Nils
Sat Nov 18, 2017 2:38 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Morality
Replies: 154
Views: 1512

Re: Morality

Nils wrote: In my worldview truth, right, and wrong are absolutely not meaningless and have I tried to explain why. Didn't you understand or didn't you agree and if so, why? I'm sorry. Could you point me to the post where you addressed this? I think it was this post , but the quotes were kinda mess...
by Nils
Sat Nov 18, 2017 2:22 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Morality
Replies: 154
Views: 1512

Re: Morality

Ken, sorry I almost missed you post. To me morality is definitely not objective but not totally subjective either. In what ways is morality not subjective? If we knew 1. the circumstances we live in, i.e. if the society a hunter gather or a modern industrialised society, which technology we have etc...
by Nils
Fri Nov 17, 2017 2:22 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Morality
Replies: 154
Views: 1512

Re: Morality

Ah, the slippery road of subjective morality, that which gave us the likes of Stalin, Pot, Mao and so many others. Paul, I am not sure that the issue of morality was the prime reasons for the ideology of Stalin, Pot, Mao and others. Besides, an objective morality does only solve the ontological pro...
by Nils
Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:52 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Morality
Replies: 154
Views: 1512

Re: Morality

Ah, the slippery road of subjective morality, that which gave us the likes of Stalin, Pot, Mao and so many others. Paul, I am not sure that the issue of morality was the prime reasons for the ideology of Stalin, Pot, Mao and others. Besides, an objective morality does only solve the ontological pro...
by Nils
Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:31 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Morality
Replies: 154
Views: 1512

Re: Morality

Page 6 by Kurieuo » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:19 pm (note that this is local time). http://discussions.godandscience.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=42169&start=75 "Now, the question is, for someone who believes in Materialism, why do we have this moral conscience? Given we have the power to ignore ...
by Nils
Fri Nov 17, 2017 3:32 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: The Truth Surrounding the Theory of Evolution and its Rationale
Replies: 39
Views: 178

Re: Skepticism and the Principle of Sufficient Reason

Yet, if our senses of the world and rationality were naturally evolved without any intention to work this way and that, one might wonder as to whether we were able to sense and know what is actually true, or whether what we sense and know is merely adapted to get by in life and survive. I discussed...
by Nils
Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:14 am
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Morality
Replies: 154
Views: 1512

Re: Morality

To me morality is definitely not objective but not totally subjective either. Morality is needed for animals and humans living and co-operating in groups for mutual benefit. It is a code of conduct that partly is induced by evolution and made us to act morally instinctively. In a group, a tribe or e...
by Nils
Thu Nov 09, 2017 1:28 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Skepticism and the Principle of Sufficient Reason
Replies: 83
Views: 603

Re: Skepticism and the Principle of Sufficient Reason

So from what perspective am I coming from with this PSR thing. First, the definition of the Principle of Sufficient Reason is pretty basic: Everything must have an explanation . You can't get more basic than that, really so if you disagree with that we might as well just quit the conversation now. ...
by Nils
Mon Oct 23, 2017 1:28 pm
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Nature of Reality: A Challenge to Atheists
Replies: 258
Views: 18711

Re: Nature of Reality: A Challenge to Atheists

We cannot directly sense in the manner a bat senses the world around them. I wonder if your views on reliable knowledge, shared experience, testing and the like isn't too simple. Further to this, the premises that your senses are reliable and you can in fact test this, is well, quite rather a circu...
by Nils
Sat Oct 21, 2017 12:03 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Nature of Reality: A Challenge to Atheists
Replies: 258
Views: 18711

Re: Nature of Reality: A Challenge to Atheists

Kurieuo, thanks for your contentious answer. It will take me some time to answer.
Nils
by Nils
Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:12 pm
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Nature of Reality: A Challenge to Atheists
Replies: 258
Views: 18711

Re: Nature of Reality: A Challenge to Atheists

If we can't trust or senses and our ability to reason it means that any statement is void, including the one that says you can't trust your senses or reasoning obviously. BUT we also know that there is more to the universe than what can be perceived solely by our senses. We can't see/hear/taste and...
by Nils
Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:00 pm
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Nature of Reality: A Challenge to Atheists
Replies: 258
Views: 18711

Re: Nature of Reality: A Challenge to Atheists

Neo: As I understand quantum mechanics the forking effect is only noticable on the micro level. And that should tell us something about attempting to apply that to the larger level of the physical world - we've no reason to believe in alternate realities, or things happening without cause. We see c...
by Nils
Fri Oct 20, 2017 1:54 pm
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Nature of Reality: A Challenge to Atheists
Replies: 258
Views: 18711

Re: Nature of Reality: A Challenge to Atheists

What is it like to be a bat I wonder? y:-? Well, conscious is a difficult question but how does that relate to what I wrote? Besides, you wrote on Sep 18: "Nils, also I haven't overlooked your post. I'm short of time lately, but I appreciate anyone opposite to my position who does try take up ...
by Nils
Thu Oct 19, 2017 2:04 pm
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Nature of Reality: A Challenge to Atheists
Replies: 258
Views: 18711

Re: Nature of Reality: A Challenge to Atheists

If we can't trust or senses and our ability to reason it means that any statement is void, including the one that says you can't trust your senses or reasoning obviously. BUT we also know that there is more to the universe than what can be perceived solely by our senses. We can't see/hear/taste and...
by Nils
Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:55 pm
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Nature of Reality: A Challenge to Atheists
Replies: 258
Views: 18711

Re: Nature of Reality: A Challenge to Atheists

Interesting discussion. I mostly agree with neo-x First about Hoffman. The TED speech was interesting but I didn't understand what he meant by that fitness was defeating truth. Therefore I read The Interface Theory of Perception at http://www.cogsci.uci.edu/~ddhoff/interface.pdf. What he means, as f...

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