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by Nils
Sat Oct 12, 2019 4:09 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Atheist question
Replies: 237
Views: 9567

Re: Atheist question

Actually... even if we assume small single mutation steps I think we can still use some rough math to demonstrate that random mutation is incapable of producing the changes that we see in the fossil record and the DNA of life today. As an example, lets look at the genetic difference between humans ...
by Nils
Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:40 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Atheist question
Replies: 237
Views: 9567

Re: Atheist question

Actually... even if we assume small single mutation steps I think we can still use some rough math to demonstrate that random mutation is incapable of producing the changes that we see in the fossil record and the DNA of life today. As an example, lets look at the genetic difference between humans ...
by Nils
Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:35 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Atheist question
Replies: 237
Views: 9567

Re: Atheist question

I don't believe Behe, Meyer, and Axe are dismissing an established theory. They are questioning one part of a theory that has not been empirically established. And the specific part that has not been empirically established is the alleged ability of "random" mutation to infuse new information into ...
by Nils
Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:32 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Atheist question
Replies: 237
Views: 9567

Re: Atheist question

You misunderstand me completely. My claim above isn’t about Axe’s article. My claim is a general claim that one (or a few) single article isn’t enough to dismiss an established theory. I don't believe Behe, Meyer, and Axe are dismissing an established theory. They are questioning one part of a theo...
by Nils
Wed Oct 09, 2019 1:53 pm
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Atheist question
Replies: 237
Views: 9567

Re: Atheist question

Sorry DB, for late response. To try to structure the debate: 1. The main thing I want to discuss is Meyers argument in the clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7c9PaZzsqEg. He says that Axe’s article shows that random mutations isn’t enough to move from one functional protein to another and therefor...
by Nils
Mon Sep 30, 2019 1:09 pm
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Atheist question
Replies: 237
Views: 9567

Re: Atheist question

But I didn't see anything in your link that rebutted the following from Gerlenter's article. What proportion of these many polypeptides are useful proteins? Douglas Axe did a series of experiments to estimate how many 150-long chains are capable of stable folds—of reaching the final step in the pro...
by Nils
Sat Sep 28, 2019 1:14 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Atheist question
Replies: 237
Views: 9567

Re: Atheist question

Re #211 Here is an interesting one, not from Meyer: https://www.claremont.org/crb/article/giving-up-darwin/ As I wrote in #202: "Another source of information is a current article: https://quillette.com/2019/09/09/david- ... ng-darwin/ by Jerry A. Coyne where he discusses https://www.claremont.org/c...
by Nils
Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:03 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Atheist question
Replies: 237
Views: 9567

Re: Atheist question

There are serious limits to mutations! A molecular biologist talks mutations and microevolution: https://www.reasons.org/explore/blogs/theorems-theology/read/theorems-theology/2017/11/27/mutations-how-they-work-and-which-worldview-they-favor "The fact that rapid selection of mutations provides fitn...
by Nils
Thu Sep 26, 2019 1:31 pm
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Atheist question
Replies: 237
Views: 9567

Re: Atheist question

I have seen nothing to indicate that Meyer's statement is factually incorrect. The statement is correct but explain to me how it is possible to come from the statement to the conclusion. How does he reason? Meyer's reasoning from the quote above is factually accurate... If the probability of findin...
by Nils
Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:44 pm
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Atheist question
Replies: 237
Views: 9567

Re: Atheist question

Of cource he can't, natural science isn't about proof, it is about evidence. Nobody can prove that there is gravity everywhere on the earth but still everyone assumes that the gravitation theory is correct. The evidence is total. The same with evolution. Wow. So Gravity is a LAW. We can replicate, ...
by Nils
Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:19 pm
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Atheist question
Replies: 237
Views: 9567

Re: Atheist question

You have yet to demonstrate anything inaccurate in what Meyer has said. My first comment on Meyer was on his clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7c9PaZzsqEg, which you referred to, #179. Between 4:33 and 6:08 he discusses the possibilities of proteins and says that the chance to find a new protein...
by Nils
Wed Sep 25, 2019 12:59 pm
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Atheist question
Replies: 237
Views: 9567

Re: Atheist question

Here is an interesting one, not from Meyer: https://www.claremont.org/crb/article/giving-up-darwin/ An exert: ....... As I wrote in #202: "Another source of information is a current article: https://quillette.com/2019/09/09/david- ... ng-darwin/ by Jerry A. Coyne where he discusses https://www.clar...
by Nils
Tue Sep 24, 2019 4:44 pm
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Atheist question
Replies: 237
Views: 9567

Re: Atheist question

You have yet to demonstrate anything inaccurate in what Meyer has said. My first comment on Meyer was on his clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7c9PaZzsqEg, which you referred to, #179. Between 4:33 and 6:08 he discusses the possibilities of proteins and says that the chance to find a new protein...
by Nils
Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:21 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Atheist question
Replies: 237
Views: 9567

Re: Atheist question

Which tells me that you are not really interested in Meyer's position, especially the merits of Meyer's position I know it before. Now I was interested in the first clip you referred to and the obvious falsehood of Meyers first arguement. Repeating a fallacious assertion with zero evidence to suppo...
by Nils
Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:53 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Atheist question
Replies: 237
Views: 9567

Re: Atheist question

DB, this is an answer to your #187 The second is more interesting, between 7:45 and 17:40. Stephen Matheson tries to discuss exactly the question that I brought up below I'll take a look... Well, I'm glad you found one of the videos interesting :) The point being discussed in this section of the vid...