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by patrick
Sat Apr 22, 2017 12:25 am
Forum: General Discussion & Introductions
Topic: Is being an atheist irrational?
Replies: 253
Views: 2061

Re: Is being an atheist irrational?

Justhuman, I wonder if perhaps you're not putting the cart before the horse with your lying example. While it's very easy to posit some ultimate being that *does* lie and does "whatever He wants**," such seems to raise more questions than it answers. I think a lot of atheists assume that G...
by patrick
Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:31 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: "If you were born elsewhere, you wouldn't be a Christian..."
Replies: 15
Views: 183

Re: "If you were born elsewhere, you wouldn't be a Christian..."

Just be careful Patrick not to confuse Christian inclusivism with universalism . Christian inclusivist still believe that only Christ saves Universalists don't believe you need Christ to be saved at all . Big difference between the 2 From the little I've seen of universalists, they seem to disagree...
by patrick
Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:32 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: "If you were born elsewhere, you wouldn't be a Christian..."
Replies: 15
Views: 183

Re: "If you were born elsewhere, you wouldn't be a Christian..."

Yeah, I agree. I see the argument as largely a kind of red herring. Basically, "so what?" I think it's pretty obvious that people are influenced to believe in what the people surrounding them believe. And equally obvious that people by and large are going to stick with their original belie...
by patrick
Tue Apr 18, 2017 4:37 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: "If you were born elsewhere, you wouldn't be a Christian..."
Replies: 15
Views: 183

"If you were born elsewhere, you wouldn't be a Christian..."

This is a line of thought I've often seen leveled against Christianity, and really every religion, but those others aren't key here. I have my own answers to this, but I'm really curious how others here view it -- for one thing, my conviction in God's existence doesn't extend to the personal God of ...
by patrick
Tue Apr 11, 2017 6:57 pm
Forum: General Discussion & Introductions
Topic: Can a computer program do this?
Replies: 4
Views: 87

Re: Can a computer program do this?

I think it'd depend highly on what information it uses in such an attempt to predict. It would need to either be given examples (machine learning) or be programmed explicitly with theories about how wars work and such.
by patrick
Sun Apr 02, 2017 1:23 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Jesus First SJW? Influence of Christ
Replies: 11
Views: 203

Re: Jesus First SJW? Influence of Christ

I think it's an interesting question, all the more because it's often argued that Christianity held back humanity in a way that Greek culture would have not. I'd have to read up on ancient Greek history to make an informed opinion on the matter, but I think it's undeniable that Jesus promoted social...
by patrick
Sun Apr 02, 2017 12:23 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Significance of Animal Sacrifice as the Old Covenant
Replies: 0
Views: 42

Significance of Animal Sacrifice as the Old Covenant

I think perhaps one of the big things that's taken me a while to really start to understand is what it meant for Jesus to be crucified for our sins. To modern sensibilities, such might appear outdated because it harkens back to the archaic practice of animal sacrifice, but that simply misunderstands...
by patrick
Sun Apr 02, 2017 10:35 am
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: The possibility of evil is good? Love of good vs Hate of evil
Replies: 13
Views: 267

Re: The possibility of evil is good? Love of good vs Hate of evil

So Patrick, what do you think? - - I think this question in particular is pretty insightful Is it error to teach what true right is and what true wrong is? If not, then why bother teaching our own children these things? In a lot of ways, how God relates to us can be understood by how we relate to o...
by patrick
Sun Apr 02, 2017 5:57 am
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: The possibility of evil is good? Love of good vs Hate of evil
Replies: 13
Views: 267

Re: The possibility of evil is good? Love of good vs Hate of evil

There is no good in evil, it's an oxymoron to say. Like saying there is darkness in light. It's simply, He created beings with self determination. I can't help but suspect you misunderstood my point, though to be fair my framing it as "possibility of evil is good" doesn't help matters. Th...
by patrick
Sun Apr 02, 2017 1:36 am
Forum: General Discussion & Introductions
Topic: Was Jesus tempted sexually when he walked this earth?
Replies: 24
Views: 305

Re: Was Jesus tempted sexually when he walked this earth?

I thought this analysis was pretty relevant to the topic: http://www.jasonstaples.com/bible/most-misinterpreted-bible-passages-1-matthew-527-28/ Matthew 5:27–28: Ἠκούσατε ὅτι ἐρρέθη· οὐ μοιχεύσεις. ἐγὼ δὲ λέγω ὑμῖν ὅτι πᾶς ὁ βλέπων γυναῖκα πρὸς τὸ ἐπιθυμῆσαι αὐτὴν ἤδη ἐμοίχευσεν αὐτὴν ἐν τῇ καρδίᾳ α...
by patrick
Sat Apr 01, 2017 10:21 pm
Forum: General Discussion & Introductions
Topic: Self Control
Replies: 8
Views: 117

Re: Self Control

Mostly when I feel it's not important. Emphasis on "feel." Like when I was working with kids, even though I found it very hard to stop swearing the week before I started, by the time I started I had all but gotten myself to stop. I do cut myself more breaks when I'm tired, but I tend to be...
by patrick
Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:14 pm
Forum: General Discussion & Introductions
Topic: What's God and what's not
Replies: 11
Views: 151

Re: What's God and what's not

Part of the answer is that when people say God told them to do this or that. If it directly contradicts Scripture or involves pursuit of, or results in, sin - then we know God did not so instruct. A few years ago, I came across two sermons that addressed the issue of knowing God's will. They were s...
by patrick
Thu Mar 30, 2017 5:46 am
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: The possibility of evil is good? Love of good vs Hate of evil
Replies: 13
Views: 267

Re: The possibility of evil is good? Love of good vs Hate of evil

I think, the hardest thing to explain, is how "free will" is created or allowed as part of creatures. One reason perhaps is because we are largely only familiar with a mechanical materialistic world. So then, we're wired to understand matters a certain way. For example, we might visualise...
by patrick
Tue Mar 28, 2017 7:05 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: The possibility of evil is good? Love of good vs Hate of evil
Replies: 13
Views: 267

The possibility of evil is good? Love of good vs Hate of evil

Where did evil come from? Where did Satan's choice to do evil come from? And why did God allow Eve to be swayed by Satan? I've been seeking answers for these questions, but for all my seeking I can only conclude that it must be that, one way or another, the potential to do evil is good. I've been wo...
by patrick
Tue Mar 28, 2017 4:01 pm
Forum: General Discussion & Introductions
Topic: Is being an atheist irrational?
Replies: 253
Views: 2061

Re: Is being an atheist irrational?

I don't think of atheism as irrational, but all the views I've heard for it that I found coherent I also found uncompelling. For instance, I talked to someone who believed there was good reason to think that science is only incidentally practical, and ultimately we're simply imposing our ideas of co...

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