Evidence for God from Science

Hello Kurieuo It has been some time since the last post, but I came across this thread again and noticed your post and it seems to me to repeat the same mistake about the EAAN. You write E+N=-R is valid. Then claim that as R and E are true, N must be false. However, R is clearly not true, evidenced ...

Good I agree with you so why are you believing man say naturalism and evolution are true? As you said man has been wrong so many times and yet here you are doing it.The bible tells us over and over not to believe man over God.Man is prideful and hard-headed and does not like to admit he is wrong an...

But, you do see, now you have a defeater for your final conclusion there? Dear Kurieuo I understand that if naturalism and evolution are correct then we do not have reliable beliefs. However, this does not detract from the conclusion, following the logic of the EAAN, that naturalism is correct. It ...

So because science says evolution and naturalism is true even though man has been wrong so many times,evolution and naturalism are true and there is no way God is needed even when evolution or naturalism has never been demonstrated by one scientist,yet they are still right and we should believe the...

Did you take a look at that video I posted "Evolutionary Argument Against Naturalism (Introduction)". This really is well done I though, though one could get lost if their full attention isn't in it. Dear Kurieuo I watched the video you posted. At about 4:25 the speaker refers to Ptolomei...

I have had a go at the key premises in the EAAN and I do not think there are that many. 1. Cognitive faculties are reliable at forming true beliefs 2. The theory of evolution is correct 3. Belief forming faculties are selected through the evolutionary process on the basis of their survival value no...

You were doing well explaining the EAAN I dare say that you still do not get Plantinga's argument. Palntinga neither says one way or another whether our cognitive faculties are reliable?? It also doesn't matter that you or I think we're correct in our opinion whether or not we have beliefs correct ...

If you lay out the argument in formal logic, then that would be better I think.

Dear Kurieuo
Thanks for the suggestion. I am finding it tricky to turn the EAAN into a formal set of premises. I will have to get back to you.
Regards jonesm

If you take my point then what it this "perception" you think I describe when I very much intend "belief". How do the examples I provided NOT point to beliefs. In any case, I really don't intend to offend but I'm not sure you do understand Plantinga's argument. I think it comes ...

Dear Jac3510 Or, more simply, if he's managed to figure out--that is, if his mind has been able to discover a true belief--that "racism, conspiracy theories, alien abduction, most religions have to be wrong, etc," then he's just conceding your point anyway. Or more fundamentally, he his mi...

Dear kurieuo Firstly, I'd disagree with you -- it seems to me our cognitive faculties are really good at getting things right. I take your point, but is not Prof. Plantinga's argument essentially about cognitive faculties that arrive at the truth. What you are describing seems to be perception. Natu...

Dear bibby123 Jonesm, have you ever seen a car arise by naturalistic means . You can't say that it's impossible , but what does all our experience tell us ? I've never seen complex specific information arise this way. Have you ever observed it ? I have never seen a car arise through natural means, b...

So what are our cognitive faculties there for? Most of us would think that at least one function of our cognitive faculties is to provide us with true beliefs. And when they're functioning properly, when there's no malfunctioning, and for the most part that's what they do With respect, it seems to ...