Thanks... I'll have to look into this a little deeper
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- Sat Jan 22, 2022 3:35 pm
- Forum: Creation Talk
- Topic: Hugh Ross and RTB on Neanderthals and Denisovans
- Replies: 20
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Re: Hugh Ross and RTB on Neanderthals and Denisovans
- Sat Jan 22, 2022 3:29 pm
- Forum: Creation Talk
- Topic: Hugh Ross and RTB on Neanderthals and Denisovans
- Replies: 20
- Views: 21462
Re: Hugh Ross and RTB on Neanderthals and Denisovans
I have seen those before, but there is nothing about carving figurines or musical instruments in that link
- Sat Jan 22, 2022 3:24 pm
- Forum: Creation Talk
- Topic: Hugh Ross and RTB on Neanderthals and Denisovans
- Replies: 20
- Views: 21462
Re: Hugh Ross and RTB on Neanderthals and Denisovans
I watched Nova's "Great Human Odyssey" recently. In this show there was a very interesting discussion on why Neanderthals went extinct in Europe while Modern Humans survived. Modern Humans and Neanderthals coexisted in the same environment and evidently interbred on rare occasions. Anthro...
- Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:28 am
- Forum: Questioning Non-belief
- Topic: Can Mutation Invent?
- Replies: 121
- Views: 110847
Re: Can Mutation Invent?
Until we see empirically observable evidence that beneficial mutations are able to produce coordinated adds and substitutions at a rate orders of magnitude faster than the observed capability of non-beneficial mutations, then the observable evidence indicates that the capability of non-beneficial m...
- Fri Jan 21, 2022 5:17 am
- Forum: Creation Talk
- Topic: Hugh Ross and RTB on Neanderthals and Denisovans
- Replies: 20
- Views: 21462
Re: Hugh Ross and RTB on Neanderthals and Denisovans
I watched Nova's "Great Human Odyssey" recently. In this show there was a very interesting discussion on why Neanderthals went extinct in Europe while Modern Humans survived. Modern Humans and Neanderthals coexisted in the same environment and evidently interbred on rare occasions. Anthrop...
- Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:35 pm
- Forum: Questioning Non-belief
- Topic: Can Mutation Invent?
- Replies: 121
- Views: 110847
Re: Can Mutation Invent?
Until we see empirically observable evidence that beneficial mutations are able to produce coordinated adds and substitutions at a rate orders of magnitude faster than the observed capability of non-beneficial mutations, then the observable evidence indicates that the capability of non-beneficial m...
- Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:59 pm
- Forum: Questioning Non-belief
- Topic: Can Mutation Invent?
- Replies: 121
- Views: 110847
Re: Can Mutation Invent?
Stipulating to your statement: "That doesn’t mean that every case with beneficial mutations is more rapid than some case with non-beneficial mutations." Do you agree with the following statement... In order to create the tree of life, the number of empirically observable examples of combi...
- Tue Jan 11, 2022 2:31 pm
- Forum: Questioning Non-belief
- Topic: Can Mutation Invent?
- Replies: 121
- Views: 110847
Re: Can Mutation Invent?
Stipulating to your statement: "That doesn’t mean that every case with beneficial mutations is more rapid than some case with non-beneficial mutations." Do you agree with the following statement... In order to create the tree of life, the number of empirically observable examples of combi...
- Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:00 am
- Forum: Questioning Non-belief
- Topic: Can Mutation Invent?
- Replies: 121
- Views: 110847
Re: Can Mutation Invent?
What I wrote about was an imagined example where there is one case with possible non-beneficial mutations and one case with possible beneficial mutations and I compared the rate between these two specific cases. The motive for this example was to show that there are two different mechanisms, one li...
- Sun Jan 09, 2022 8:02 pm
- Forum: Questioning Non-belief
- Topic: Can Mutation Invent?
- Replies: 121
- Views: 110847
Re: Can Mutation Invent?
The conclusion is that the frequency of the combination of non-beneficial mutations (for instance in the malaria bacteria) says nothing about the frequencies of combinations of beneficial mutations. I understand the premise perfectly well... Here are the assumptions... 1. A string of non-beneficial...
- Sat Jan 08, 2022 12:33 pm
- Forum: Questioning Non-belief
- Topic: Can Mutation Invent?
- Replies: 121
- Views: 110847
Re: Can Mutation Invent?
The malaria case shows that six non-beneficial coordinated mutations exceeds the capability of the number of life forms that have ever existed on this plan. Do you agree? Absolutely :) If you agree that is what I think is important in Issue1 In your response you argue like this (assuming you agree)...
- Thu Jan 06, 2022 2:20 pm
- Forum: Questioning Non-belief
- Topic: Can Mutation Invent?
- Replies: 121
- Views: 110847
Re: Can Mutation Invent?
Happy New Year to you too! You discuss Issue 1 so let’s concentrate on that. I wrote: “Issue 1. The malaria case. You mention often the malaria case where two non-beneficial mutations is needed to provide resistance to chloroquine. From that you (following Behe) argue that if four or more non-benef...
- Thu Jan 06, 2022 9:38 am
- Forum: Questioning Non-belief
- Topic: Can Mutation Invent?
- Replies: 121
- Views: 110847
Re: Can Mutation Invent?
Issue 3. Lenski’s experiment show according to you that “the overwhelming majority of beneficial mutations that do occur in nature and in the lab degrade genetic information” (#58). Assuming you are correct it still doesn’t follow what you continue with: “I think it is even more "wrong" t...
- Thu Jan 06, 2022 8:34 am
- Forum: Questioning Non-belief
- Topic: Can Mutation Invent?
- Replies: 121
- Views: 110847
Re: Can Mutation Invent?
We have discussed the issues above at length. It’s not meaningful to continue the discussion if your argument is: 1. “It has been shown in nature and the lab” referring to the Malaria case and E Coli experiment. and from that you make a giant leap to the conclusion: 2. “Then the billions of coordin...
- Thu Jan 06, 2022 6:30 am
- Forum: Questioning Non-belief
- Topic: Can Mutation Invent?
- Replies: 121
- Views: 110847
Re: Can Mutation Invent?
Happy New Year! :) I hope you had an enjoyable Holiday season Let me address a couple of your comments and come back to the rest later. As I got some time to read our discussion from the beginning it seem that we perhaps are coming close to a point where it’s of no use continuing the discussion. It ...