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by SoCalExile
Tue Jul 25, 2017 7:07 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Were the Nephilim and the Sumerian mythical kings somehow related?
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Re: Were the Nephilim and the Sumerian mythical kings somehow related?

Neither does the Sethite view prove that the Nephilim were humans mixing with another race of human beings who bore the mark of Cain which makes Cain's line technically another race that God caused. Yes, God caused the Mark of Cain and for the later derived 3rd century AD Sethite view to be true th...
by SoCalExile
Tue Jul 25, 2017 4:05 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Were the Nephilim and the Sumerian mythical kings somehow related?
Replies: 558
Views: 16194

Re: Were the Nephilim and the Sumerian mythical kings somehow related?

Stu wrote:

You're obsessed with Heiser :lol:

There are plenty other scholars/Christians who hold to the fallen angel theory as well.

Heiser is the main proponent of the Divine Council teaching which Paul tried to push early in this thread - so yeah, he's a fan.
by SoCalExile
Tue Jul 25, 2017 3:08 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Were the Nephilim and the Sumerian mythical kings somehow related?
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Views: 16194

Re: Were the Nephilim and the Sumerian mythical kings somehow related?

I have said over and over that here is NO SCRIPTURE that states that the sons of god are fallen angels, how many more times do I have to say it ? As a matter of fact, there is no mention of the term "fallen angel". Not sure how you can say that I don't understand what a fallen angel is, h...
by SoCalExile
Sat Jul 22, 2017 11:27 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Were the Nephilim and the Sumerian mythical kings somehow related?
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Re: Were the Nephilim and the Sumerian mythical kings somehow related?

Philip wrote:Beyond all of this, what does getting correct what happened before Noah gain us?

"...as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be..."

It has HUGE eschatological implications.
by SoCalExile
Fri Jul 21, 2017 12:07 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Were the Nephilim and the Sumerian mythical kings somehow related?
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Re: Were the Nephilim and the Sumerian mythical kings somehow related?

You will never get DNA manipulation from ANY test in the bible since such things were unheard of. BW's point is that,perhaps, what the writer understood as "bore" (since there was no other way to conceptualize it) was really genetic manipulation. Not to equate one thing with another but w...
by SoCalExile
Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:47 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Were the Nephilim and the Sumerian mythical kings somehow related?
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Re: Were the Nephilim and the Sumerian mythical kings somehow related?

P.S. The word spelled in Hebrew, נשׁים - pronounced as nâshı̂ym - translated as wives in Gen 6:2 is used in that spelling 55 times in 53 verses in the OT. It is most often used to mean: women however denoting childbearing women more than it is translated as wives. Also, when it is translated as wiv...
by SoCalExile
Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:33 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Were the Nephilim and the Sumerian mythical kings somehow related?
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Re: Were the Nephilim and the Sumerian mythical kings somehow related?

DBowling wrote:
Here's a summary of my current thoughts that I put together for Rick a while ago...

Might I add this source also, which IMO may be onto something:
Six Day Science
by SoCalExile
Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:29 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Were the Nephilim and the Sumerian mythical kings somehow related?
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Views: 16194

Re: Were the Nephilim and the Sumerian mythical kings somehow related?

This is one of the wilder discussions I've ever read on G&S. And it's filled with speculations that will likely go nowhere. If, IF the "sons of God" are fallen angels, it's certainly not clear from the text. So - let's not go trying to matchy-match Scripture to fit that scenario. It's...
by SoCalExile
Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:22 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Were the Nephilim and the Sumerian mythical kings somehow related?
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Views: 16194

Re: Were the Nephilim and the Sumerian mythical kings somehow related?

One thing though, other than the passage where Jesus makes it clear that there is no sexual intercourse IN HEAVEN, is there any reason to believe that divine beings can NOT make with humans on Earth? We know that are NOT supposed to but we also know that divine beings have free will and rebel, just...
by SoCalExile
Sat Jul 15, 2017 7:26 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Were the Nephilim and the Sumerian mythical kings somehow related?
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Views: 16194

Re: Were the Nephilim and the Sumerian mythical kings somehow related?

Why can't you see that giants were produced in Genesis 6 and then when the bible says Goliath (and his brothers too) is a giant somehow change it to mean man? The word used to describe Goliath is not nephyl/nephilim , it's an entirely different word, which means it has a different meaning. Why? If ...
by SoCalExile
Sat Jul 15, 2017 2:35 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Were the Nephilim and the Sumerian mythical kings somehow related?
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Views: 16194

Re: Were the Nephilim and the Sumerian mythical kings somehow related?

Dr. Michael Heiser: "DEUTERONOMY 32:8 AND THE SONS OF GOD": https://faculty.gordon.edu/hu/bi/ted_hildebrandt/otesources/05-deuteronomy/text/articles/heiser-deut32-bs.htm Heiser's scholarly expertise is not only in the ancient Hebrew and the languages of the Bible, but of the cultures, bel...
by SoCalExile
Fri Jul 14, 2017 10:45 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Were the Nephilim and the Sumerian mythical kings somehow related?
Replies: 558
Views: 16194

Re: Were the Nephilim and the Sumerian mythical kings somehow related?

You are dense. The Septugaint was written BEFORE the NT era, was the bible used by Jesus and His followers and it translates it "giants". You obviously did not read the article or the footnotes and links and you just going on "confirmation bias". Honestly, what is wrong with you...
by SoCalExile
Fri Jul 14, 2017 10:42 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Were the Nephilim and the Sumerian mythical kings somehow related?
Replies: 558
Views: 16194

Re: Were the Nephilim and the Sumerian mythical kings somehow related?

SoCal wrote: Words mean things. When Genesis 7 says that everything that had breath died except that which was with Noah, and yet that's not convincing to someone, they aren't putting their stock in the Bible... The key is dry land where ? What does the text say? Genesis 7:22-24 22of all that was o...
by SoCalExile
Fri Jul 14, 2017 8:55 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Were the Nephilim and the Sumerian mythical kings somehow related?
Replies: 558
Views: 16194

Re: Were the Nephilim and the Sumerian mythical kings somehow related?

...Jude is NOT saying the angels had sex with women, it's saying they rejected God's authority and left heaven. THEN it mentions the perversion of S&G and those cities around them that engaged in the same sin. THEN Jude states that the apostates in his day are rejecting God's authority (as the ...
by SoCalExile
Fri Jul 14, 2017 8:53 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Were the Nephilim and the Sumerian mythical kings somehow related?
Replies: 558
Views: 16194

Re: Were the Nephilim and the Sumerian mythical kings somehow related?

PaulSacramento wrote:Some of us hold scripture so high that we devote our lives to it, to learning about it though qualified teachers and asking guidance from Our Lord and the Holy Spirit because it means more to us than anything else.

Then discard it when it suits your fancy and tickles your ears.

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