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by Kenny
Sun Dec 17, 2017 12:10 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: There is no Hope without Jesus
Replies: 2
Views: 78

Re: There is no Hope without Jesus

Jesus taught the Resurrection of the Dead, and he proved it by resurrecting Lazarus and himself from the Dead. Without Jesus, there is no Resurrection of the dead. The Resurrection of the Dead But if it is preached that Christ has been raised from the dead, how can some of you say that there is no ...
by Kenny
Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:29 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Morality
Replies: 287
Views: 20776

Re: Morality

You do realize that it is a logical inconsistency to say that good is subjective BUT to disagree that "good" exist? No; here is how it works: Good is subjective, means everybody has their own personal view of what is good, that varies a little from person to person. The vast majority of i...
by Kenny
Fri Dec 15, 2017 6:47 am
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Morality
Replies: 287
Views: 20776

Re: Morality

It pains me when people don't know enough history to see the REAL danger of subjective morality and the "ends justifies the means" mentality. If morality is objective, thus subjective morality is only a hypothetical; history would be full of examples of Objective morality, not Subjective ...
by Kenny
Fri Dec 15, 2017 6:42 am
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Morality
Replies: 287
Views: 20776

Re: Morality

Ken: Thoughts do not exist, they are not real; they are just figments of our imaginations. *cough* self-refuting argument *cough* Right now I'm thinking about Santa Clause coming to town in about a week and a half. Are those thoughts real, or just a figment of my imagination? You don't get it do yo...
by Kenny
Fri Dec 15, 2017 6:40 am
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Morality
Replies: 287
Views: 20776

Re: Morality

The real questions are, where do the thoughts originate, and how do we respond to them? Thoughts originate from the brain, and when we understand the consequences of actions and how they affect ourselves and our neighbors, we make a decision on which thoughts to respond to and make reality, and whi...
by Kenny
Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:15 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Morality
Replies: 287
Views: 20776

Re: Morality

PaulSacramento wrote:
Ken: Thoughts do not exist, they are not real; they are just figments of our imaginations.


*cough* self-refuting argument *cough*

Right now I'm thinking about Santa Clause coming to town in about a week and a half. Are those thoughts real, or just a figment of my imagination?
by Kenny
Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:11 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Morality
Replies: 287
Views: 20776

Re: Morality

It pains me when people don't know enough history to see the REAL danger of subjective morality and the "ends justifies the means" mentality. If morality is objective, thus subjective morality is only a hypothetical; history would be full of examples of Objective morality, not Subjective ...
by Kenny
Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:43 am
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Morality
Replies: 287
Views: 20776

Re: Morality

Is it possible that you are conflating ontology and epistemology? No. Then could you explain the difference between ontology and epistemology, as they pertain to morality? Again? Really?? The Ontological question would be; What is morality? What is the nature of morality? The Epistemological questi...
by Kenny
Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:45 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Morality
Replies: 287
Views: 20776

Re: Morality

If you understood, you wouldn't have said what you said. In your opinion, is it possible to disagree with you on this issue and still understand? Ken Is it possible that you are conflating ontology and epistemology? No. Then could you explain the difference between ontology and epistemology, as the...
by Kenny
Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:19 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Morality
Replies: 287
Views: 20776

Re: Morality

RickD wrote:
Kenny wrote:
PaulSacramento wrote:If you understood, you wouldn't have said what you said.

In your opinion, is it possible to disagree with you on this issue and still understand?

Ken

Is it possible that you are conflating ontology and epistemology?



No.
by Kenny
Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:11 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Morality
Replies: 287
Views: 20776

Re: Morality

PaulSacramento wrote:If you understood, you wouldn't have said what you said.

In your opinion, is it possible to disagree with you on this issue and still understand?

Ken
by Kenny
Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:19 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Morality
Replies: 287
Views: 20776

Re: Morality

Before we continue, with all of your post, can we address this first? You said: Kenny wrote: Okay; lets assume morality is objective, and people aren’t qualified to determine right from wrong (morality), thus we need something else superior to us to determine such complicated issues; like God. Why ...
by Kenny
Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:16 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Morality
Replies: 287
Views: 20776

Re: Morality

Before we continue, with all of your post, can we address this first? You said: Why would you assume that people aren't qualified to determine right from wrong? If one requires an outside source as a moral foundation when determining right from wrong, this is a person unable to determine right from...
by Kenny
Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:51 am
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Morality
Replies: 287
Views: 20776

Re: Morality

Concerning animals: Ken writes that People don't generally apply morality to animals. This is as usual a matter of definition. To me morality is a set of rules of conduct and animals have those also. Most have for instance instincts that prevent them to eat their offspring but animals that live in ...
by Kenny
Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:42 am
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Morality
Replies: 287
Views: 20776

Re: Morality

Before we continue, with all of your post, can we address this first? You said: Kenny wrote: Okay; lets assume morality is objective, and people aren’t qualified to determine right from wrong (morality), thus we need something else superior to us to determine such complicated issues; like God. Why ...

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