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by Kenny
Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:06 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Morality
Replies: 154
Views: 1717

Re: Morality

Ken, sorry I almost missed you post. To me morality is definitely not objective but not totally subjective either. In what ways is morality not subjective? If we knew 1. the circumstances we live in, i.e. if the society a hunter gather or a modern industrialised society, which technology we have et...
by Kenny
Sun Nov 19, 2017 3:55 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Morality
Replies: 154
Views: 1717

Re: Morality

RickD wrote: Sorry for the confusion. I didn't mean, "If morality was subjective". I mean that their belief in purely subjective morality, or in other words, a subjective morality worldview, leads to atrocities like those people committed, because in that worldview, there is no objective ...
by Kenny
Sun Nov 19, 2017 3:27 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Morality
Replies: 154
Views: 1717

Re: Morality

RickD For the sake of discussion, if we assume morality is objective, what difference would it make? If we recognize what mad men like Stalin, Pot, Mo and others like them did while morality is objective, how do you think things would be different if morality were subjective? I'm not Rick, but give...
by Kenny
Fri Nov 17, 2017 5:45 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Morality
Replies: 154
Views: 1717

Re: Morality

RickD

For the sake of discussion, if we assume morality is objective, what difference would it make? If we recognize what mad men like Stalin, Pot, Mo and others like them did while morality is objective, how do you think things would be different if morality were subjective?

Ken
by Kenny
Fri Nov 17, 2017 5:33 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Morality
Replies: 154
Views: 1717

Re: Morality

Sorry for the confusion. I didn't mean, "If morality was subjective". I mean that their belief in purely subjective morality, or in other words, a subjective morality worldview, leads to atrocities like those people committed, because in that worldview, there is no objective right and wro...
by Kenny
Fri Nov 17, 2017 12:32 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Morality
Replies: 154
Views: 1717

Re: Morality

Subjective morality leads to atrocities like those committed by the above people , because there is no right or wrong. Right and wrong are whatever one decides them to be. And with those who have power as they did, they can force their subjective morals on others. So are you saying there IS such a ...
by Kenny
Fri Nov 17, 2017 9:45 am
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Morality
Replies: 154
Views: 1717

Re: Morality

Ah, the slippery road of subjective morality, that which gave us the likes of Stalin, Pot, Mao and so many others. Is this your way of admitting morality is subjective? How's this? Objectively subjective to God. ;) No, he suggested Stalin, Pot, and Mao did what they did because morality is subjecti...
by Kenny
Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:37 am
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Morality
Replies: 154
Views: 1717

Re: Morality

Ah, the slippery road of subjective morality, that which gave us the likes of Stalin, Pot, Mao and so many others. Is this your way of admitting morality is subjective? How's this? Objectively subjective to God. ;) No, he suggested Stalin, Pot, and Mao did what they did because morality is subjecti...
by Kenny
Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:19 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Morality
Replies: 154
Views: 1717

Re: Morality

PaulSacramento wrote:Ah, the slippery road of subjective morality, that which gave us the likes of Stalin, Pot, Mao and so many others.

Is this your way of admitting morality is subjective?

Ken
by Kenny
Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:22 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Morality
Replies: 154
Views: 1717

Re: Morality

To me morality is definitely not objective but not totally subjective either. In what ways is morality not subjective? Morality is needed for animals and humans living and co-operating in groups for mutual benefit. It is a code of conduct that partly is induced by evolution and made us to act moral...
by Kenny
Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:52 am
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Morality
Replies: 154
Views: 1717

Re: Morality

You sure about that Kenny? Ever heard of chattel slavery? Nazi extermination of Jews and others? What about the practice of murdering unborn humans for convenience? I think you understand the point I was making. K Yes Kenny, I understand what you're saying. But I don't think you understand the cons...
by Kenny
Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:05 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Morality
Replies: 154
Views: 1717

Re: Morality

ken wrote: Not quite; all humans will consider human life more valuable than an insect or animal life... You sure about that Kenny? Ever heard of chattel slavery? Nazi extermination of Jews and others? What about the practice of murdering unborn humans for convenience? I think you understand the po...
by Kenny
Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:27 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Morality
Replies: 154
Views: 1717

Re: Morality

ken wrote: Not quite; all humans will consider human life more valuable than an insect or animal life... You sure about that Kenny? Ever heard of chattel slavery? Nazi extermination of Jews and others? What about the practice of murdering unborn humans for convenience? I think you understand the po...
by Kenny
Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:52 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Morality
Replies: 154
Views: 1717

Re: Morality

You still haven't shown how your measure of what is good, means anything more than your preference for one flavor of ice cream over another. Personally; my determination of good and bad are determined on a case by case basis. Now if you want to see if my measure means more than ice cream flavor, gi...
by Kenny
Fri Nov 03, 2017 6:45 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Morality
Replies: 154
Views: 1717

Re: Morality

RickD wrote: How can you define "good"? RickD wrote: And why should I believe that your "good" has any more meaning than a preference of chocolate ice cream over vanilla? Kenny, You're still not getting it. I'm not making an argument about what is good and what isn't. I'm arguin...

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